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Old Apr 29, 2008, 07:04 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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Supposition, no evidence given.



An IF,WHAT proposition, not evidence.



Then knowledge of it is based on faith rather than evidence. To argue that creationist has evidence is to say that science does have the means to locate consciousness.



Then how can we detect it?

Conciousness is a product of the human mind, you have yet to prove it can exist outside that boundary.



Existentialist crap.
What? You need evidence for what a mind is?

Not crap, mathimatics.

The point is that science cannot detect consciousness any more then a creationist can detect it as the source. You cannot really detect the past or future, it is all a matter of establishing a propersition but yet, as I pointed out if you had started your debate with the opening posts I wrote instead of coming in late in the explanation, we can experience mind and conscousness first hand. Nor can you prove the mathimatical idea of nothing with evidence, only by the total subtraction of known events or things.

Can conscousness exsist outside of the mind you asked. Scientific studies have found evidence that would favor such a propersition.

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That study would suggest the possiblity of an Overmind that each member of a species is connected too, beyond group thinking (monkey see monkey do) or individual consciousness. You might not like that study, but for me it indicates that the mind is not limited to just the physical parts of a given human or animal. And based on that evidence I can claim that behavior designership is involved in controlling speices advancement. Aka - evolution.

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