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Most of the above are features of any organized group.

Like Zhavric says, you haven't named any.

I've been to several retreats and worked for the confirmation program at St. James here in CT. The programs divided the students into little workgroups, with two guides to each group, by the end of the weekly program each group had gone through a range of topics and learning.

Exactly. You're just giving us an example of how people are indoctrinated at an early age into believing Christianity.

At the end of the program the question was asked do you really want to be confirmed and take your place as a catholic.

The people being confirmed were no doubt part of Catholic families. Of course they would want to be Catholic, it's part of their family tradition. Besides, people only get confirmed if they've already been going to church for a while. No doubt they've already been exposed to a good amount of brainwashing in church.

This is just how we brought up large groups of kids. Is it brainwashing? No, but I guess if your a egocentric atheist you'd throw group brainwashing, peer pressure, love bombing, and other words out and decry this system.

Yes, we say it's brainwashing. You can't prove it wrong just by acting like we have an agenda. Many of the things Aussie described take place in churches.

Religion is instructed and by the fact alone it seems its declared brainwashing. I guess public schools, AA, and every other support group is also brainwashing then as well. Its a world of brainwashing where nobody learns independently and uses their own judegement and sounds rational logic to become peaceful atheists.

Public schools do not use any of the brainwashing methods described. Support groups I have not been to and would not know about, but they are created to solve problems, unlike Christianity. Unless you can prove that Christianity does not use these methods to brainwash then stop trying to say that there's an atheist agenda.