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Old Apr 29, 2008, 03:31 pm   #120 (permalink) (top)
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Ok, lets get down to the basics of the basics. God can exist. Lets say he created the initial energy burst that brought everything into existence. What mountains of evidence disproves that?
The only reason we treat the energy burst as though it happened is because there is evidence to prop up the idea. To be consistent in character and for the sake of logical cleanliness, it is fair to give every idea the same treatment. No idea deserves to be holy until it is proven to be holy.

However, you are arguing for a deistic God, not the Christian God. Accounts of the Christian God's accomplishments contradict scientific evidence more directly.

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It's not. The Bible says so. Right in the passages I described. I'm following the Bible.
The Bible also insists in other places the reverse mode of interpretation, a literal one, is the correct choice -- it is just differences in opinion amongst different writers living in different time periods. And no one who wrote those things ever once considered the matter in the same style as you, so why are you appealing to their words for authority? That is taking their statements out of context, which is senseless.

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I believe in evolution. I accept evidence. I also believe in God. I don't think that science and Christianity are mutually exclusive.
Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Wiccans, and others can make the same claim using the same double-standard logic, but it never accomplishes anything productive. It just obscures the issue, making it more insensible than it should be by including information irrevelant to the investigation.

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This doesn't address my post in any way.

My idea was that the Bible agrees with my statement that Christians need to adapt the Bible. You say that we just do it because we are hypocrites. It isn't an argument, just an opinionated statement.
I know from experience it never firmly asserts the view that the Bible as a whole ought to be interpreted allegorically. Fables and parables are included in the text, and these are subject to such interpretations. But the Jews invested much effort into making Old Testament an authentic history, and nothing they wrote on that note was ever meant to be taken as anything other than the hard, accountable facts of the matter.


A moral being is an entity for whom the disadvantage of others is an issue.
– K.H.Y.

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