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Old Apr 29, 2008, 02:49 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
tivodan1116
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Exactly what does "underage girls" mean? Are you implying that 14 or 15 years of age is too young for marriage? It's the laws that are bogus (especially Texas laws). There's little difference between the Texas 'militia' and Hitler's SS.
Nice... reducto ad hitlerium (Godwin's Law) and we're only 5 posts in.

And yes, people are implying that 14 or 15 is too young for marriage. Do you disagree?

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Remember Waco? Same zealots, same war crime atrocities against helpless children. It makes my blood boil to see evil people step in and destroy happy and functional families.
LOL... The Davidian Branch was happy and functional? These people were happy and functional? You have a very strange view of those terms.

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Maybe my views and your views do not align with these polygamists and separatists but that doesn't matter. Our country is founded on the principle of individual freedoms. The oppressive regime that we call our government once fought for freedom; now, it fights against it.
Freedom to abuse children? Is that what our forefathers fought and died for?

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If we can allow Satanists to practice their rituals, homosexuals to flaunt their perversions, promote adultery and prostitution by allowing nude dancers to accept money insertions, and a plethora of other less-than-optimum behaviors and actions that 'indoctrinate' our children, I don't see why we can't allow polygamy and 'child' marriage. It's not like it's unique or unheard of in the world. In fact, it is a quiet common practice all over the world.
So many fallacies packed into one paragraph I don't know where to begin.

Slippery slope fallacy.
"Off a bridge" fallacy.
Reducto ad absurdium fallacy.
Strawman fallacy.

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But even if we can't allow polygamy and child marriages, it is a travesty of justice to take these children from their mothers (where the likelihood of abuse is virtually non-existent) and put them into foster homes where abuse is almost certainly guaranteed.
Show me evidence that an overwhelming majority or even a significant plurality of foster parents are abusers. Your statement is a blatant, unsourced, ridiculous indictment of millions of loving foster parents.

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The whole reason I brought this subject up was sort of a test.

If this group was just some Anti American government commune living out in the desert, who were invaded on false information people on this site would be howling.

Yet I suspect because its a religious group those same parties don't care as much.


If this was a sect of child-abusing tax protesters this thread would be 75 pages by now.

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I think this is blatant abuse by the state, of individual rights and due process, regardless of the "reason" the group seperated themselves from society.
Ah... So an individual has a right to violate age of consent laws if it is for religious reasons? I think NAMBLA just found their loophole...


Don't forget... Lawyers were writing the Constitution while doctors were still bleeding people with leeches...
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