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Quote by: yourmaster You cannot deny it is harmful to the reproductive system that the human race is based upon, fecundicity is the prominent evolutionary heuristic and as homosexuals refute this they are contradicting the healthy development of the human race

I *can* deny your so-called claim of 'harm' until you provide proof there's *ever* been a reduction in fecundity due to homosexual expression throughout history.

There's evidence that homosexual expression does exactly the opposite of 'harm' which, by observation, is demonstrated through individual selection for reciprocal altruism.

Same-sex alliances have repeatedly shown to have reproductive advantages, and homosexual behavior can serve to maintain these alliances. Same-sex alliances help opposite-sex individuals survive and subsequently reproduce.

Even nonhuman primates use homosexual behavior in same-sex alliances, and such alliances appear to have been key in the expanded distribution of human ancestors during the Pleistocene era. Homosexual emotion and behavior are, in part, emergent qualities of the human propensity for same-sex association.

No one questions the fact that heterosexual behavior serves non-conceptive functions such as the maintenance of long-term bonds. If homosexual behavior also serves non-conceptive functions, such as the maintenance of same-sex alliances (long-term supportive relationships) that aid in resource competition and cooperative defense, homosexual behavior would be considered a positive selection. Homosexual behavior is therefore a survival strategy, supporting the propagation of a species' reproductive strategy.

Given the context cited above, homosexuality survived thousands of years because it is genetically favored within a fairly narrow and consistent percentage of the general population.

Quote by: yourmaster I do not deny that homosexuality is not a conscious choice, yet if it is enviromentally affected then homosexuality can be averted and recovered from. Change the environmental factors or attempt to change your perceptions of them and it may be possible to change sexuality.

Your proof for this assertion? And how, specifically, does this relate to the topic?

Quote by: yourmaster There is no solid evidence of a gay gene and there is a lot to contradict it, so we shall leave that for another day on the grounds of lack of information.

Then why speak of it? And who says there's a "lack of information". There's a significant body of evidence that suggest certain behaviors attributed to heterosexual females is also part of the biological make-up of homosexual males. Take the fairly recent discovery about scent detection and behavior similarities between heterosexual females and homosexual males, for instance.

Quote by: yourmaster Simple mathematics suggest from those figures that heterosexual couples are 7% less likely to split up, this causes less damage to society and it's knockon effects, it is in society's best interests to have lasting marriages, as gay marriages are not so strong then they should not be allowed to legally marry.

Considering how little data has been collected on same-sex marriages compared to opposite-sex marriage, I'd say your math is defective. Further, the short length of time that same-sex marriages have been effect have no predictive ability to address the 'strength' of them. They have not had the same amount of time to develop into the more defined and predictable behavior as their hetero counterparts have.

Quote by: yourmaster Heterosexual marriages are stronger, they have the ability to procreate, they provide a stable base for rearing a child, where as a child raised by homosexuals will face major issues in later life because they have homosexual foster parents.

That's a function of a xenophobic society, not a function of a family structured with same-sex parents. A similar xenophobic behavior still exists when opposite sex couples of different races are observed. Please keep your argument intellectually honest by correctly identifying the cause for such behavior.

Quote by: yourmaster Homosexuality though it's members do contribute to society they do not contribute as much as heterosexuals, I think they should be allowed to marry, but with less rights and privellages for the above reasons.

The only privilege opposite-sex couples should be granted is assistance in raising any offspring they produce. Everything else is on equal footing when it comes to privilege.