[The Bacon Guy]

Quote by: Mast Over population is an issue that needs to be addressed of course, the problem is that the de population has to be gradual, 10% of couples not reproducing is far too much, we already have problems with too many pensioners and not enough workers to support them.

But banning gay marriage isn't going to result in homosexuals suddenly becoming heterosexual and deciding to have kids. They'll simply remain unmarried homosexuals and still be child-less.

And Wind's point about the homosexual adoption is an important one, I think, since money saved in state-run orphanages could be put into pensions.

Quote by: Mast That may be true, but that does not make bullying good, because it toughens people up does not make it right, a cause of major bullying should be avoided if it can. The bigger issue here though is not the direct effect of bullying, it's the chance that a child may turn on his/her foster parents and blame them as the cause of their suffering. Catastrophic to say the least, how can you claim a relationship in which a child hates his/her parents to be worthwhile at all?

You could use the same argument to ban interracial marriages as well or to ban Hindus or the disabled or the physically unattractive from having children. It's true that having homosexual parents may lead to bullying, but then there are a myriad of other factors which could also lead to bullying, It' not fair to single out just one of them.