Volconvo Debate Forums - View Single Post

Radarlove · Apr 29, 2008, 07:04 am

Rainbow,

"It could be related to unusual brain's activity."

Science uses this notion to counteract the truth of the NDE, in my view. And on the surface, 'unusual brain activity' sounds a feasible suggestion. BUT when you have studied the subject in depth and read the many first hand accounts of people's experiences, there are some NDE cases which simply cannot be brushed aside with this viewpoint.

For example, when a person finds himself floating above their physical body during an operation; when they can see and hear what is going on around them; listen in to conversations between the surgeon and nurses etc.. while they are out for the count... then it becomes interesting because you have some tangible proof to work with.

One typical case I came across was where a woman was pronounced dead on the operating table. This lady said she floated through the theatre wall and found herself above the roof of the hospital looking down. She noted in a corner gutter section an old plimsoll lying there. It had a red stripe down the side and a hole at the end where the big toe would be. She was then revived by the doctors. Her next memory was waking up in a hospital bed.

The following day she managed to persuade a nurse to look for this plimsoll. No-one was aware it lay there. It could not be seen from any of the hospital windows. Sure enough, after much huffing and puffing; when the hospital handyman was called and a ladder was used to reach this desolate gutter section, they found a plimsoll exactly as described by the woman. There are many similar cases.

When science is faced with this type of evidence, they have great difficulty explaining it away, so their usual pat answer is, "The brain is very complex and it will take us another 50 to 100 years to understand it." Thus giving themselves more time to remain in denial.

The NDE and the OOBE are exactly the same experience. The only difference is that with an NDE the person has no control over it. With the OOBE, after some practise, the person can have control.

Apr 29, 2008, 07:04 am	#36 (permalink) (top)
Radarlove Still Unusual Posts: 33	Rainbow, "It could be related to unusual brain's activity." Science uses this notion to counteract the truth of the NDE, in my view. And on the surface, 'unusual brain activity' sounds a feasible suggestion. BUT when you have studied the subject in depth and read the many first hand accounts of people's experiences, there are some NDE cases which simply cannot be brushed aside with this viewpoint. For example, when a person finds himself floating above their physical body during an operation; when they can see and hear what is going on around them; listen in to conversations between the surgeon and nurses etc.. while they are out for the count... then it becomes interesting because you have some tangible proof to work with. One typical case I came across was where a woman was pronounced dead on the operating table. This lady said she floated through the theatre wall and found herself above the roof of the hospital looking down. She noted in a corner gutter section an old plimsoll lying there. It had a red stripe down the side and a hole at the end where the big toe would be. She was then revived by the doctors. Her next memory was waking up in a hospital bed. The following day she managed to persuade a nurse to look for this plimsoll. No-one was aware it lay there. It could not be seen from any of the hospital windows. Sure enough, after much huffing and puffing; when the hospital handyman was called and a ladder was used to reach this desolate gutter section, they found a plimsoll exactly as described by the woman. There are many similar cases. When science is faced with this type of evidence, they have great difficulty explaining it away, so their usual pat answer is, "The brain is very complex and it will take us another 50 to 100 years to understand it." Thus giving themselves more time to remain in denial. The NDE and the OOBE are exactly the same experience. The only difference is that with an NDE the person has no control over it. With the OOBE, after some practise, the person can have control. What happens if you play ‘The Blues’ backwards? You sober up, your wife returns home, and the dog comes back to life.