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Old Apr 28, 2008, 01:59 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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This is very disingenious to make a false claim and not back it up with a link. Very disingenious. Especially when the spending powers are with Congress. McCain can propose a pork barrel plan to Congress, but has he has show he doesn't spend money on pork. (see my fatest pig thread for proof).


Might be true, but I don't think it over-welms his political objectives. To his credit he does support stem cell research.

I care more about saving the economy rather than saving the right to abortion.


WRONG, he is stating he would reduce taxes and spending, much different than Jr (until at least to the end of Bush's Presidency). Its not much different than Obama stating hope, hope, hope. But never defining how he will get to "hope," except if you mean raising taxes


(1) A history of lowering spending and lowering taxes. Things that Bush didn't do during his Presidency
(2) Support global warming legislation
(3) Has reached across the idle and teamed up with Democrats like Feingold, Lieberman and Kennedy
(4) Actually had a plan to combat illegal immigration
(5) Support stem cell research
(6) He talks about the necessity of getting our allies to back us in military operations. Which is a direct opposite of Bush.
McCain Remarks on Foreign Policy - washingtonpost.com
(7) McCain is against torture, wants to close Gitmo and wants MCA to be amended.
(8) McCain called for the US to reduce its nuclear aresenal to give incentive to others to do the same.
NTI: Global Security Newswire - Thursday, March 27, 2008
(9) He is against artic drilling and supports ethanol (stupid in my opinion).
He is using outsourcing of jobs as a justification to allow businesses to polute America and to defeat the Unions in a unregulated manner, same as Bush would do.

Just a few to name.


John McCain on the Issues
Do your research!


Not sure on the hospitals, but the label of him as a mindless hawk is disingenious.

Lebanon: From the NY times (hardly a pro-Republican paper)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/op...=1&oref=slogin

Iraq: (He was a strongly critized the war effort before most people and he villified by his own party for it)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/op...=1&oref=slogin


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/op...=1&oref=slogin


See above.


What would the Democrats do. Raise our taxes and increase government?

His own words are the best link, just listen to him speaking. He will continue spending large sums of money on the war in Iraq, just like I said. He would encourage domestic drilling for oil which is more pork for the oil industry plus he would not regulate them which adds more money in their pockets. Why should us nature loving citizens give our public lands to the oil industry so they can distroy them? Why should we the people turn over OUR natural resources to the oil industry so that they can turn around and rip us off at the gas pump? First we must regulate them and get them under our thumb, before we give them those grants for oil exploration and what not.

What kind of stem cell research?

We should not give up the rights of women just to get John McCains promise to lower taxes. Lower taxes means something goes on the chopping block, such as the school system and so forth. If he wants to eleminate tag on pork to bills that a President would sign then he should become a Democrat because that is what Clinton would propose. You cannot control pork unless the President has a one-line veto authority, which is what Bill Clinton asked for and which the Republicans in Congress did not agree with. They did not want to change things. The Democrats can pay for their projects by not wasting money in Iraq and by reconstructing the tax codes so that rich people and mega-businesses cannot get out of paying their share of taxes. (as we already told you about before... buy you plugged up your ears ).

The hope of unification of all people might be a hopeless hope of Obama, but he has down to earth plans to solve problems as does Hillary Clinton. We would just need a Democratic Congress that is into change also, and then "hope" of getting united support form Republicans would not be a "must have" need. That is totally possible.

1 - Then how come taxes are not lower? Did he fail to unit anyone behind him? He supported a big loan form China to continue the Iragi war and that must be repaid by tax payers - it is not free money.

2 - How can he support an end to global warming and also favor more dependancy on oil and not regulate polution?

3 - What, on one bill? What did Kennedy agree too? Lieberman does not count as being "across the asile" because he is a turn-coat democrat who attempted to undermine his own party, he is now a "nowhere man" who supports mindless violence just like McCain.

4 - "Combat" undocumented workers and job migration? We are not a war with those people. Does he have a good plan that Mexico would agree too? If not then he is not being fair to everyone.

6 - They do back us in Afganistan but no one wants to back up the war crimes of Iraq. Bush tried to get that support but cannot, nor could McCain. Blaming other countries for not supporting that oil grab is no way to win a war anyway.

5 - there are different kinds of stem cell research and so does he support the kind which is the most objected too by abortionists?

7 - Democrats are also apposed to torturing POWs and we look forward to working with him to stop that Bush/Rumsfield policy.

8 - I would support not making any more nuclear bombs and to reduce our inventory, and not arm our self with those weapons anymore. And we need to have a plan for shutting down nuclear plants used for energy as they become older, which needs to be planned ahead of time because building new ones would be pointless.

In overview McCain would be a tiny bit better then Bush but falls short of reaching the changes we want in totality. Unless he is telling fibs to get elected like most Republicans are known for doing.

If you want to limit the federal government and remove the income taxes then you should have voted for Ron Paul when you had a chance to nominate him, McCain is no "poster child" for that purpose. He just supports a bigger military rather then more domestic programs that are useful here at home.

It is just a myth that Democrats will raise taxes and create a worthless complexity of governmental departmentations. Those things happened after the great depression but are not relative to what would happen during the next 9 years.
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