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syracusa · Jul 2, 2004, 04:01 pm

Prettyredhead,

I am not arguing with you, I know what you are saying and I am very much on your side.
They SHOULD. And they SHOULD control themselves when they come back from work stressed, and NOT take it out on their wives. Definitely not.

You got it right, the "whipped and tortured" was a metaphor. But do you really think it is that far from what happens in reality at work?
The more "important" the career you are dealing with is, the fiercer the game gets. Believe me, it is not fun at all. Sometimes, you DO feel tortured by the whole situation. The workplace is full of power-hungry jerks and compulsively competitive bastards who would do anything to push you away so THEY can get in. It's the nature of the game in the public sphere. It's not "goo-goo" and warm like it is at home.
The higher up you try to get (to make more money and be a better provider) the more "ennemies" you are likely to encounter on the way. Don't be fooled by people's apparent "civility" and "collegiality" in the workplace.
You said that your work involves screwing around on the computer and offering your pretty smile to the customers who come in.

Well...perhaps at this level the ferocity is not visible, after all you are paid by some men (or man-like womnen) who use your pretty smile in exchange for 10$/hour to advance their business interests.
But try the workplace NOT as their secretary, but as their competitor!!
THEN it gets ugly.

I don't remember which psychologist said that:
"COMPETITION GIVES THE BEST IN PRODUCTS AND THE WORST IN RELATIONSHIPS".

The workplace is designed to be a nasty, competitive place. It is not human-friendly, it is product-friendly.
The home is not designed to be a harsh, competitive place - but warm, acommodating and humane. It is the only place where you are smart, pretty and lovable even when in reality, you are just stupid, ugly and obnoxious.

Men will always want to remind us of this, that we do our job from a cushy place. Unless they are perfectly moral and saintly and follow THE RULE without questionning it:

Woman suffers to give birth.
Man suffers to provide.

But in any case, I personally do not expect miracle changes from the male species, not any time soon.

Jul 2, 2004, 04:01 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
syracusa Igneous Magma Posts: 623	Prettyredhead, I am not arguing with you, I know what you are saying and I am very much on your side. They SHOULD. And they SHOULD control themselves when they come back from work stressed, and NOT take it out on their wives. Definitely not. You got it right, the "whipped and tortured" was a metaphor. But do you really think it is that far from what happens in reality at work? The more "important" the career you are dealing with is, the fiercer the game gets. Believe me, it is not fun at all. Sometimes, you DO feel tortured by the whole situation. The workplace is full of power-hungry jerks and compulsively competitive bastards who would do anything to push you away so THEY can get in. It's the nature of the game in the public sphere. It's not "goo-goo" and warm like it is at home. The higher up you try to get (to make more money and be a better provider) the more "ennemies" you are likely to encounter on the way. Don't be fooled by people's apparent "civility" and "collegiality" in the workplace. You said that your work involves screwing around on the computer and offering your pretty smile to the customers who come in. Well...perhaps at this level the ferocity is not visible, after all you are paid by some men (or man-like womnen) who use your pretty smile in exchange for 10$/hour to advance their business interests. But try the workplace NOT as their secretary, but as their competitor!! THEN it gets ugly. I don't remember which psychologist said that: "COMPETITION GIVES THE BEST IN PRODUCTS AND THE WORST IN RELATIONSHIPS". The workplace is designed to be a nasty, competitive place. It is not human-friendly, it is product-friendly. The home is not designed to be a harsh, competitive place - but warm, acommodating and humane. It is the only place where you are smart, pretty and lovable even when in reality, you are just stupid, ugly and obnoxious. Men will always want to remind us of this, that we do our job from a cushy place. Unless they are perfectly moral and saintly and follow THE RULE without questionning it: Woman suffers to give birth. Man suffers to provide. But in any case, I personally do not expect miracle changes from the male species, not any time soon. COMPETITION BRINGS THE BEST IN PRODUCTS AND THE WORST IN RELATIONSHIPS.