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Old Apr 26, 2008, 01:25 am   #104 (permalink) (top)
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To answer your question Captain Cardio,
I do believe God can see into the future, but I don't believe his decisions are predetermined, because of free will, which you seem to think contradicts.
Yes I think this contradicts. Here's why:

If god can see into his own future, god already knows what god is going to choose to do.

So when that moment of choice comes along, god can do one of two things:

1. He can choose to do something that he didn't predict in order to verify his free will, which means he didn't predict the future correctly in the first place, so therefore he is not omnipotent.

or

2. He is obligated to make the decision he predicted earlier that he would, to verify his omnipotence, in which case, he would not have come to the decision freely, therefore god would not have free will.

This is a contradiction and they don't come much plainer. When it comes to the moment of god making any decision, he either violates having freewill or violates having omnipotence.

If somebody says that this is not a contradiction to them, they should provide a reason to believe that two things that are mutally exclusive are possible simultaneously, such as a married bachelor or a square circle.

Otherwise, they just aren't subscribing to basic logic.

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This may be a logical contradiction for some, but for me I believe that it is not a contradiction. You are right that most christians just accept this, and don't question it, but I do believe that christians think for themselves, since they are able to choose christianity.
That's circular reasoning. You could say that same thing another way:

"Someone is a Christian, therefore they critically think for themselves, therefore they are right for being a Christian."
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