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Impenitent · Nov 10, 2003, 03:24 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (G. Adams,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
laws and a militia?

that is the definition of a government<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

not really. if you read my other posts regarding this issue you can see how this doesn't come up to a 'government'

Or at least it is not government by its current form. Any laws proposed by the council must be ratified by a referendum. The councillors can be recalled at any time. Militia members can be thrown out of the militia by referendum. The council has very little power, unlike a proper government.

but for me this is only a transitional stage. It may be possible to take away even these insitutions eventually, but I couldn't say yes or no to that.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

-gov·ern·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gvrn-mnt)
n. ...4 The agency or apparatus through which a governing individual or body functions and exercises authority.

laws and militia is the definition of a government
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=government

you can try to change the definition of government but when a council or militia demands that people behave in specific ways, that is government. I don't care how fluid the council and the militia may appear to be, their existence is governmental... if you want to get rid of government, get rid of government, don't lie about government "light" on the road to hell er communism... if you don't take away the institutions you don't have communism, you have the USSR... if you take away the institurions you have anarchy in the literal sense and the strong will rise to the top and rule as they do now...

it will never work

Nov 10, 2003, 03:24 pm	#75 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (G. Adams,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,) laws and a militia? that is the definition of a government<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> not really. if you read my other posts regarding this issue you can see how this doesn't come up to a 'government' Or at least it is not government by its current form. Any laws proposed by the council must be ratified by a referendum. The councillors can be recalled at any time. Militia members can be thrown out of the militia by referendum. The council has very little power, unlike a proper government. but for me this is only a transitional stage. It may be possible to take away even these insitutions eventually, but I couldn't say yes or no to that.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> -gov·ern·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gvrn-mnt) n. ...4 The agency or apparatus through which a governing individual or body functions and exercises authority. laws and militia is the definition of a government http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=government you can try to change the definition of government but when a council or militia demands that people behave in specific ways, that is government. I don't care how fluid the council and the militia may appear to be, their existence is governmental... if you want to get rid of government, get rid of government, don't lie about government "light" on the road to hell er communism... if you don't take away the institutions you don't have communism, you have the USSR... if you take away the institurions you have anarchy in the literal sense and the strong will rise to the top and rule as they do now... it will never work "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...