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Quote by: christianmathew But I was wondering what other people thought about christianity vs. aethism. Post, write what you want, whatever. I just want to hear your opinions.

No, you don't... you came here to evangelize. Hardly the Christian thing to do, mathew... start off a new thread with a lie.

Quote by: tommy If God can create the universe, he can falsify the evidence.

LOL! Good lord, Tommy... WHY? God gives humans the mind to compile evidence and follow where it leads, only to fool us by planting false evidence?

Oh well, I always thought that if God existed, He had to be a real practical joker.

Quote by: christianmathew Yes, I am very comfortable with that idea. Every human being was given a chance to turn to God, so if they didn't do so, they are choosing to go to hell.

So here it is... the ultimatum.

Mathew, I have a little test I'd like you to take, but before I get to that, let me ask you. Is God the creator of all things, all knowing and all powerful? Is everything that happens in the universe the will of God? And if so, isn't every choice we make also God's will? Therefore it obviously can't be our will, now, can it?

Nah... I don't believe in God and I'm not going to Hell. Hey, God works in mysterious ways, right? If you believe in Hell, you're welcome to it.

Now for your quiz...

"One beautiful, sunny day, a sweet, innocent 13 yr-old girl was making her way home through the streets of Bangkok, Thailand. She was a very bright, precocious young girl, a good student, an obedient and loving daughter, who gave of her time doing volunteer charity work. And she was a devout Buddhist, the religion of her parents and their parents, and her peers and community.

As she's walking home, she comes across a Christian missionary who's holding forth before a small crowd, explaining the basics of Christianity and the teachings of Jesus Christ. Being bright and curious, the young girl stops and listens intently. After an hour or so, she mulls over what she's heard and decides to continue to believe devoutly in her own faith and that of her family. Satisfied and happy, she turns to continue her walk home, stepping into the street, where she is hit by a careening, runaway bus and killed instantly.

So... is she going to Hell?"

Quote by: christianmathew And finally, I do believe in every single word the bible has. Down to the letter.

Really? That's interesting, because right off the bat, in Genesis, God creates day and night. Then, three days later, He creates the Sun. It's interesting because every third grader understands that the definitions of day and night depend on which part of the earth is facing the sun.

So having day and night before having a sun not only defies the laws of physics, it defies the laws of language, and THAT'S a neat trick! Yep, God definitely works in mysterious ways.

Quote by: christianmathew If you don't believe in something there is no evidence for, that is your perogative. You are not being demanding, you are just trying to think with your head and not your heart.

Actually I'm thinking with both. When I was 18, I asked Jesus to come into my life. For the next three months or so I read the Bible and really tried hard...

But in the end, it wasn't my head that told me I wasn't buying it, it was my heart. It was during the next 40 years that my head tried to figure out what my heart was telling me, and what, if I didn't believe in God, I did believe in.

I've pretty well figured it out, thanks.

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