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Quote by: stevemckay
I would assume that if one actually does believe that there is a creator then one must
also believe that the creator also created the laws of our universe… which would include the laws that govern matter and energy. If that is the case than why would said creator be constrained by the laws he created? (did I use "create" enough there?)
When I write a program is my physical life constrained by the laws of the .Net framework I utilize for the software I generate? (I know you’re a Mac guy so go with me)
I say no!
In my physical existence I am constrained by the laws of my physical reality (i.e I have to crap but my code does not) whereas the programs I write are bounded by: the code I create, the C syntax I use, and the .Net framework windows provides me (in my analogy I am God so I also created C, .Net, the Windows OS, and the x86 architecture of the computer I am using.. if you follow my point)
Does that make me, as the programmer, any less real? Does that mean that since I am in the physical world and the program I write is in the .Net world that we cannot interact in a way that I choose? Because I am carbon based and the program I write is binary based does that invalidate either or both of us.
To make a final point of it: I think you are wrong. If there is a creator... with ultimate knowledge, power and skills.. then he can interact as he chooses because he writes the rules.
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Very good post stevemckay, I enjoyed that analogy. So if there is a creator it would be impossible for us to use scientific methods to try and prove it, we can only know for certain if there is a god if he should choose to make his existence known, but it seems to be logical to assume the existence of a god possible and agnosticism would be a more intellectually honest belief than atheism.