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Old Nov 10, 2003, 11:20 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (nature of reality,)
It might be interesting to note that strife between capitalism and authoritarianism created my country....


"I have never supported authoritareanism, I support democracy, which you are clearly terrified of."

Now this is an interesting trick of logic. I am not for statism either. You support lynch-mob style democracy.

Why do you present be 1. Ruled by the Majority or 2. Ruled by a Dictator , as the two poles? Why can't there be 3. Ruled by myself? I want a government of Laws, not men.

Also, if thatcher is like reagan who supported supply - side economics, i am against that as well. i believe in NO government tampering of the economy. Laissez faire.

If you have to pay for NHS, there is no choice. Thats is like someone coming to my house, putting a gun to my head and saying you must pay for this, but you don't need to use it. Then you say " See ! Thats not robbery, you have choice!"

As for death taxes, the point of rich children is irrelevent. The issue is the will of the dead parent, who actually earned the money. Is it better to have a 3-5 leach children , or 30-50 leech paupers?

I don't think you know the meaning of the word capitalism is you think GB is highly capitalistic.


Also, i wandered around those silly sites. They were as ambigious as to how the economy would operate as you were. I guess that explanes your answer, as if even your crackpot leaders can't figure out a way to make it seem like it would work, then certainly you can't either.
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I don't support lynch mob democracy. There are basic rights that I would fight for regardless of the numbers against me. But I don't believe that if communism came about through the route I support that we would have lynch mobs. I want the world to be fully capitalistic as well as liberal democratic. That means everyone having a good education. People that have such an education don't fall to mobs easily.


If people want the benefits of living in Britain then they pay taxes. If they are so against paying taxes that will help poor people, we have an entire EU for them to move to without restrictions. Go to Italy, they have lower taxes.

You want to be both ruled by yourself and ruled by laws? Who makes the laws? Oh look someone else is ruling you now. You have the misfortune of living in a community, so you won't be able to rule yourself. You have to make some arrangements to get along with your neighbours.

Well Thatcher I'm not sure of Thatchers support for supply side economics because she never really go to that point, she was so busy just cutting national industries (which I support) without trying to get new jobs to replace those lost (which I don't support) that she never really had to get into such economic tactics. But the point regarding Thatcher was that she was authoritarean and a conservative, while you were suggesting it was the socialists who were authoritarean.

30-50 leach paupers. Those children have likely had the benefit of private education, they can find their own feet. But those paupers are, well, paupers, and if that money can get them out of that situation and let them look after themselves well then that money has gone to a good cause. Will of the dead? They have no will, as long as the kids are okay it doesn't matter. And this death tax, the GB government takes, it allows up to 3 million per spouse, any left over is taken. So I doubt the kids are gonna starve.

Britain is capitalistic with some socialist practices, rather than socialist with some capitalist practices.

Wow, you impress me if you can thoroughly read all relevant articles across those two sites in one night.

Okay, well now you've done that, I recomend Marx's Das Capital.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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