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Old Apr 22, 2008, 02:43 pm   #192 (permalink) (top)
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It doesn't matter if someone knows they are doing something wrong. The damage is still being done and we still have a right to prevent it. Ignorance is not an excuse.


That doesn't change the fact that it's still their habitat. If it can't hold them, it's because they're, by definition, overpopulated.


A) Expensive B) Some people don't like dogs and would require the dog to be in the garden 24 hours a day C) Requires people to be in their house, on the lookout, 24/7.

Keeping the deer population down is by far the best way of protecting our property from them. Prevention is better than cure.


And you expect other people to take this course of action?


If you want something to be made illegal, the burden of proof is on you.

You haven't proven that hunting is unsustainable.
You haven't proven that deer would prefer to be killed by wolves.
You haven't proven that deer would prefer to be neutered.


But you didn't show that. The only way wolves and cougars would kill less deer is if we allowed the deer to remain overpopulated (i.e. still allowed them to come onto our territory and damage our property).


Because you haven't been able to prove that hunting is any worse a method of population control than natural predation or neutering.
It is not ignorance, since they don't have the chance to know what they are doing.

No, not by definition. Their habitat is all of North America, therefore, if they come onto 'our' land, that does not mean their habitat can't hold them and they are coming onto ours. Since 'our's' is actually there's.

Seriously, if you put money above a intelligent life form, that is sad. People have many options to keep deer of their property, I just suggested a few. If people are not willing to do any effort or spend any money on keeping deer away, then I would say tough *&%$.

Yes, I agree. And that can be done with re-introducing natural predators or neutering them.

No, I don't. You asked me a question, I answered what I would do.

I have proven hunting is unsustainable.
I have proven deer would rather be hunted by natural predators then hunters.
I have proven through common sense deer would rather be neutered then killed.


If you want, I can repeat all my reasons for those for the 10th time

You haven't proven most of my points wrong that hunting is unstustainable, and that deer would rather be hunted by natural predators then humans. All you have done is responded to some of the points you think you can crack, and leave the rest. Or you lead them in different directions.

That does not mean they are overpopulated, look in the dictionary please.


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