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Old Apr 22, 2008, 02:36 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
Anmon
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=Morality Games;499007]and the subsequent two years of brutal military campaigning toward the Rhine and into Germany that followed
11 months actually.

Normandy landings - 6 June 1944
German surrender - 8 May 1945



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If the United States hadn't gotten involved in World War II, Britain wouldn't have been able to do anything except defend themselves from Nazi attacks (they didn't have anywhere near the manpower to drive Germany out of France, let fight their way to the Rhine and beyond
If America hadn't declared war on Germany, England would have been eventually overrun.
No one is doubting English courage or tenacity, they would have fought to the last man. But without the huge American back up of firepower, logistics and supplies, they would have been simply over run in the end, by numbers and superior fire power.



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Additionally, the United States fought against the Empire of Japan almost completey by itself, and they were a huge power.
Don't forget Australia.

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World War II was one of the best expressions of American military power in history and it is considered by historians the world over to be a huge reason for considering our military the best in the world. You have been reading skewed history books if you think differently.
WW2 made the US the power it is today, and some would say WW2 was completely contrived and set up by American businessmen and politicians to make it so.
Where did Hitler get all his steel from in the thirty's? Prescott bush, Dubyas Grandpappy and US banks thats who.
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I'm aware (and take a dim view of) members of the American military degenerating and breaking the standard rules of warfare (with clumsy excuses too), but for the most part, we adhere to the rules.
I have watched you tube videos sent back from Iraq and Afghanistan, and a lot of the US soldiers behaviour towards the local population, is nothing short of disgusting, immature and downright embarrassing.
They are like little grubby minded 14 year old boys with guns.

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The United States doesn't do well unless we go in full force -- a "fumbling hand" is usually what we've put out for the last couple decades.
Exactly, as usual the denouncers of US might in war miss the small details.
The US armed forces in Iraq has a lot of fighting ability, courage, great logistical support(as always) and a lot of very scary smart weapons available for troops on the ground, who are mostly trigger happy maniacs(nothings changed in this regard) I would not want to get into a fight with them, if I was an Iraqi whatsoever.
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