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Old Apr 22, 2008, 06:41 am   #189 (permalink) (top)
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I don't have a source to link to,
Then it's worthless.

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We don't have to keep the population down to levels were they become rare in the suburbs or the park. That is being selfish.
No, it's protecting our property.

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No, not true. A deer's habitat is technically everywhere. Since they were here first and they roamed everywhere.
But now we're here and we've created our own habitat in which deer are not welcome. We have every right to defend our territory against invading animals.

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Would you kill a two year old kid since it didn't know any better to dig in your garden?
A two year old kid isn't a deer. There are better ways of keeping the kid off my lawn than killing it.

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No, you wouldn't. Don't punish thing unless they know they are doing bad or if you told them before. If you don't want deer on your lawn, get a dog.
So you would allow a rat or cockroach infestation in your house?

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You said hunting is necessary to keep the deer populations down. Why are you back tracking now? I can show where you said that if you want.
I've said that keeping deer population under control is necessary, but I don't remember ever saying that hunting is the only way of doing this (though I was pretty drunk when I wrote some of those posts). In fact, I could probably find you two dozen instances in which I've said that natural predation is also a possible (though inferior) method of population control.

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If you remember my first post, I stated hunting is not needed.
I also remember the variety of posts in which you have been arguing for a complete ban. I've argued several times against your idea that hunting should be illegal, and it is only now when your position is untenable that you deny this to be your argument and change it to an argument that hunting is not unconditionally necessary.

Of course this is a totally redundant position to take, since any leisure activity is unnecessary. That doesn't mean it's undesirable, functionless or that it should be banned. So if your argument is now that hunting is not unconditionally necessary, then I agree. But so what?
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