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Old Apr 21, 2008, 12:40 pm   #46 (permalink) (top)
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If we concede that health care is a private industry in the USA then isn't the so called 'affordable' health care that Hillary wants to inflict on us an attempt to socialize medicine? Doesn't it mandate that all of us join under threat of government garnishment of our wages if we dont?
They have "socialized medicine" in most other developed countries in the world, are they all socialist states? Are their leaders socialist?

Just cause you give it the "red scare" label, doesn't make it a communist ideal.

Again in the words of Deng Xiaoping "It doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, only that it catches mice". I honestly couldn't care less if it were democratic, socialist, or Wookie, as long as it works, I don't care.

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Lets face it, is anyone turned away from emergency care because they cant afford it?
You've never been to California? Homeless people are tossed out all the time (even when they have broken bones, etc). It's because these hospitals can't pay all these people.

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How many are complaining about the high premium costs of medical insurance?
The ones with cancer, and other persistent diseases.

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Add in reality if medical care becomes cheaper and or even free we will use it more and the quality will erode. Bubba's got a boil on his ass, take him to the docter?
The reason prices are inflated aren't because of quality reasons, but because it is so lucrative to sue doctors for malpractice, that the price of everything they do is insane.

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Doctors will be forced into accepting fees, lines will grow longer and waits for surgery longer! That's what happened in England and Canada?
And yet they are much healthier countries then the United States.

Also, the lines will be longer, but for specialty operations (eye operations and such things) not for general care (much shorter in fact). Doctors forced into accepting fees? what?

Yet, this isn't a debate about health care, this is a debate about Hillary, and if you disagree with her approach to health care then say so, but don't call her a socialist without good reason.


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