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Quote by: sistani but it seems like you are undermining every piece and every word that

It's a debate forum you don't seem to agree with my words either.

1.The land was indeed bought, often at exorbitant prices, but from rich absentee owners, who did not live on it or cultivate it. When the late Ottoman Empire was bankrupt and in dire need of money, it sold huge tracts to rich Arab merchants in Jaffa, Beirut and other cities, who bought them as an investment

What does it matter? There was only legal way to acquire land.

The Arab Felaheen (farmers), who had tilled the land for many generations, were mere tenants

Part of them but there was a part that were brought by absentee owners to work the land anyway their population was about 300k-400k so they didn't occupied all the land most of it was empty and full of swamps.

. When the KKL bought the land, the Felaheen were driven out, often with the help of the Turkish, and later the British police.

When someone a illegally on your property. what do you excpect ?Anyway I want an independent link about those who were driven out.

In spite of all this effort, when the United Nations resolved in November 1947 to partition the country between a Jewish and an Arab State, less than 7% of the land belonged to Jews

Do you claim that 93% belonged to Arabs? Anyway there was a majority of Jews in A Jewish state. And that what matters.

Logic would have dictated that with the founding of the State of Israel, the KKL transfer its lands to the State. After all, that was the idea of collecting the money. But this did not happen. In fact, the very opposite took place

Why it is logic?

the refugees who were not allowed to return ("absentees" in legal language), those who had remained in the country but were absent on a given day from their villages ("present absentees"), as well as Arabs who became citizens of Israel.

If the Arabs hadn't attacked Israel and instead of this would answer Israel call for peace there would 23rd Arab state and no refuge problem.

We appeal - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions. We extend our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East Proclamation of Independence

It is important to keep this in mind, since it disproves the big lie that hovers over the whole debate: that the KKL land was bought with the money of the Jewish people. The greater part of the present KKL land was not bought at all, but conquered in war and transferred to the KKL

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I never claimed that. Why did you brought it? It does some kind of Straw man argument?

Gush Shalom

So its another. Copy paste from some site. You should post links as forum rules require. Anyway I wouldn't call Gush Shalom not biased source. Its rabid leftist organization that have a strong bias to one side.

and the majority of Arabs were against it

How do you know it?

many carrying fabricated accounts of Jewish attempts to defile Muslim holy places, all to inflame the Arab

Well I already heard something like this before maybe even on this forum...

I’m saying that the feud wouldn’t have taken place if Britain hasn’t facilitated the establishment of a Jewish state.

The feud wouldn't happen if the Arabs would choose the way of peace and cooperation. There many reasons for the conflct .But you seem that there someone else is guilty but not the Arabs.

The harassing led to intensification of events.

Yes harassing by the Arab states.
Hafez al-Assad (Syria president) rejects a statement made that day by Shimon Peres (Israel foreign minister), that Syria would accept a demilitarized Golan Heights.

Assad takes that statement to mean (as I do), a DMZ entirely on Syrian land (unilateral demilitarization). (Golan belongs to Syria, it’s under military occupation by Israel). Assad then proceeds to explain, in the next sentence, that he’s happy to demilitarize Golan, or part of it, provided the zone straddles the border, and is not hosted entirely on Syrian land, if Israel shares the burden of it, mutually demilitarizes an equal portion of its own adjacent land, hosts an equal portion of the international observers, the DMZ-watchers (bilateral demilitarization

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Please explain how Hafez Assad biased claims answer my arguments.

so what self defense are you talking about, and what incursion, why do you think the six days war broke out??

I already brought the link about that. Here is a link again.
Palestinian fedayeen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Because of Israel’s provocations of the Arab nations, they were agitated and so they retaliated

So I see its blaming the victim again. Its the victim who guilty in the crimes and not criminal. Pretty strange logic I must say.

All Arabs want is their land back. The Arab’s occupation of the land is a different issue, simply because the Byzantines (Romans) back then were mistreating the Jewish presence in Palestine forcing them to convert into Christianity, and the Arabs came and kicked the Byzantines out, they did not prosecute the Jews, they did not drive them out of their homes

Its not theirs. They didn't owned all of it. It was mostly empty like I said earlier. And ofcourse Jews were prosecuted in lands occupied by Muslim invaders Land of Israel was not special

Antisemitism in the Arab world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia it would not be difficult to put together the names of a very sizeable number of Jewish subjects or citizens of the Islamic area who have attained to high rank, to power, to great financial influence, to significant and recognized intellectual attainment; and the same could be done for Christians. But it would again not be difficult to compile a lengthy list of persecutions, arbitrary confiscations, attempted forced conversions, or pogroms.[11]

You don’t expect to come back after all of that time and take the land from the Arabs all nice and prospered and claim it as your own

That land was not nice and prospered like you claim

Here is how Mark Twain describes the area before the Jews came.

"There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [valley of Jezreel] -- not for 30 miles in either direction... One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings. ... For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee ... Nazareth is forlorn ... Jericho lies a moldering ruin ... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds ... a silent, mournful expanse ... a desolation ... We never saw a human being on the whole route ... Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil had almost deserted the country ... Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery Palestine must be the prince. The hills barren and dull, the valleys unsightly deserts [inhabited by] swarms of beggars with ghastly sores and malformations. Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes ... desolate and unlovely ... " http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/railto.../iahompag.html

A had a puppy, but he left it. Person B then found the puppy, took it home, looked after it, until it grew up, the two then became inseparable they grew to love each other and can’t be parted, Person A then comes back after all those years and asks for it back, do you expect person B to simply hand the dog over after all of those years?? Of course not. That is why I am telling you Arabs shouldn’t pay for the Jews mistakes, the Jews left their lands and didn’t fight for it.

What it has do with the conflict? Here what really happened?
Person owns a house now a robber comes and evicts it's from its house after several years pass many robbers evicting each other. The house is desolated no one really want it. So one of the robbers sells one of the rooms in it to a these person again. He start to rebuild the room with enthusiasm but when robber see how good it is it call other robbers from adjacent rooms and houses do drove this person again.

8.I will make sure to stop by every Israeli house and conduct a survey so I could come up with the exact number… what kind of question is that?? I don’t know how many numbers, but I know that plenty of Israeli’s support the idea of a third temple. Third Temple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From your source.

Although in mainstream Orthodox Judaism the rebuilding of the Temple is generally left to the coming of the Jewish Messiah and to Divine Providence, a number of organizations, generally representing a small minority of even Orthodox Jews, have been formed with the objective of realizing the immediate construction of a Third Temple in present times. These organizations include:

Thank you for proving my point.