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Old Apr 20, 2008, 09:11 am   #99 (permalink) (top)
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Actually, he was a myth based on a few other rabble rousing rabbis from the first centuries (bce and ce). Have you ever looked into the political climate of Judea circe 70 ce?
Ok, I've looked this up a little better. Most historians have dismissed this concept.

The historian Michael Grant, writing in 1977, states that, "To sum up, modern critical methods fail to support the Christ myth theory. It has 'again and again been answered and annihilated by first rank scholars.' In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary." - Michael Grant, Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels (Scribner, 1977, 1995)

The only real place this is being argued is on the internet.

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Take a bunch of desperate unsophisticated hero-hungry yokels and feed them the line, "Hey, your hero was here. He suffered more than you. He'll be back any second now" and voila! You've got the seeds of the religion that will one day give you inquisitions and crusades.
Instead of a bunch of rabbis just feeding people the line, A more realistic idea would be many people saying "Hey, your hero is here. Bow down and worship me."

There were many people claiming to be messiahs during those days. Jesus was just one of the few non-violent ones.

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Of course that doesn't make sense. Look at what you just did there. Would you say, "It makes sense that there was a Superman that the comic is based off of" or "It makes sense that there used to be unicorns that the legend was based off of."

No.
I don't think the metaphor works. Neither try to pass themselves off as real (you can find both in the fiction section).
Also I don't think I explained my logic right: People follow Jesus Christ's teachings as a religion. There was political upheaval. And they lasted to this day.

That sounds more like Buddha, or Confucius, as opposed to Superman and Unicorns.

If it was superman and unicorns, this probably would have become a legend.

However, I will recognize my logic as not solid, rather speculative.

Here is some better logic.

The roman empire and the Jewish authorities hated Christians (tried to wipe them out). Had Jesus not existed, they would have debunked his existence in an instant. Yet they recognize his existence, just opposed the idea that he was the son of God. Why?


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