[The Bacon Guy]

Quote by: Matt Yes he is, but he studies human behavior,

On an individual level; not a group level.

Quote by: Matt They don't have a 'share', they aren't natural predators.

A share is simply a proportion. There’s no reason that we shouldn’t give hunters a proportion of the kills.

Quote by: Matt Actually, no. I stated my opinion, you countered it and are trying to proove me wrong. So you are actually the one who has to prove things more so then I.

If you state your opinion in a debate, the idea is that you prove it to be a valid opinion. I’m not trying to prove that hunting is sustainable; I’m simply asking you for proof that it’s not. If you can’t prove that it’s unsustainable, then hunting should be legal by default.

Quote by: Matt It will matter to the deer, since the younger ones who have more life to live will be spared, and the sick or old ones will get killed (the old or sicks ones may also want something to end their sufferring).

Not according to your argument that a deer’s survival instinct is paramount.

Quote by: Matt Stop intertangling what the deer want and overpopulation, you are doing that.

Population control and what’s best for the deer are one and the same.

Quote by: Matt To the deer, they would rather natural predators because they kill less, simple.

Not if they are introduced in numbers sufficient to control the deer population. Remember, these measures are to combat the overpopulation problem. So it’s not a case of ten wolves vs. ten hunters; it’s a case of a number of wolves sufficient to control the population vs. a number of hunters sufficient to control the population. The number of deer killed would be the same (or actually higher).

Quote by: Matt No, after adding the amount of wolves and cougars that originally lived (before white man) in a said area (say a place where the deer are ovepropulated) the population of deer would (in a couple years) go back down to the more original levels,

In which case the wolves are killing as many or more deer as the hunters are. That’s pretty basic logic. The deer population won’t be controlled by wolves to the same extent as it is with hunters unless the wolves kill as many deer as the hunters.

Quote by: Matt No they don't, but they are not as dumb as a piece of straw,

It’s not to do with intelligence; it’s to do with which of the methods of population control will cause less suffering to the deer.

Quote by: Matt That was related to animals having an afterlife, and no one has brought up a quote from the bible saying they don't have an afterlife. How am I cherry picking?

I was referring back to Tivo’s posts, some of which you dismissed with the argument “the bible was written by men”. Apparently only the parts that you agree with are the will of God. Still, that's the same with all Christians and I don't want to get off-topic here.