[Anmon]

=Winter wind;496631] And I've known some that haven't. That don't make it proof.

Yeah the counter argument us always predictably I know such and such can kick arse etc so your point must be void, except it seems to be common knowledge for most of the population except for the type who lives almost permanently on a uni campus, that in most situations like this the woman will let the man handle the conflict because logically he has a better chance of beating off the assailant than she does, please don't bring in your buzzwords of stereotype misogynistic thinking etc, because it holds little water in real life situations.

And a woman can't do that? You think the mantra "point and shoot" are too difficult for a woman to handle?

I didn't say it was, you have grabbed this improperly without looking at the context, if anything it would be easier for a woman to do, because the mugger wouldn't be expecting it as much.

The greatest part is that the macho person in the house rarely is the dominant one. You rant and rave about the importance of being aggressive and manly, etc.

You call it rant and rave, and label it macho not me, all I was pointing out was the everyday lack of evidence of females being as good as males in life threatening situations like being mugged, when its as clear as daylight that their not, if anyone is ranting its you guys pushing your modern day gender role casting types all the time as more appropriate when there obviously not.

How about facing the cold truth one day, that everything you believe in this regard is nothing more than politically correct nonsense.
And it is you and your pc brethren who are obsessed with dominance and submissiveness roles not us, we can see what has more commonsense in certain roles, and which sex should perform them, but you cant because politically correct people have lost all common sense, if they even possessed it to begin with.

Problem one. Being macho means you are extraordinarily easy to manipulate.

Do you have any examples for that nonsense statement?
A lot of 'macho' guys also don't mind women manipulating them, its giving power to women so they don't feel so oppressed or fearful, and a lot of guys are turned on by it, it makes them feel needed, or wanted, but its not because they are unaware as you seem to be suggesting.

Hence why I said the macho person is rarely the dominant one. Once you know where their pride is, it is easy to stoke it and get whatever the hell you want.

So you are saying, not being macho, you yourself lack any pride to stroke then?
And your morals here seem to be incredibly lacking, to deceive people like that.
Give me those' macho types' any day, at least they are straight up and honest with you.

Problem number two. Self confidence can lead to arrogence.

Of course, but experiences will temper that, comes pride first before the fall as the saying goes, but a fall teaches you where you went wrong, and you get up a better person for it.
Self confidence leads to a lot of things, mostly good.

Over-estimating yourself is disastrous. Once someone asked my friend to punch him in the gut to prove how strong he was. The tough guy was unable to sit up straight for a full hour after the punch. It was rather pathetic.

a likely story, you can recover a lot quicker from being winded than a whole hour, it usually takes 5 minutes at the most.
But your story doesn't prove that being 'a tough guy' is wrong, just that maybe your friend wasn't as tough as he thought.
And your friend who punched him, you don't seem to have any reservations about them being macho or acting out the tough guy do you?

Problem number three. Manliness can lead to selfishness, since your top of the world and should be in control of everything. "Get me a beer, bitch" is a perfect example. This alienates people who don't think the world revolves around you and you lose a lot of friends.

hahaha this is good coming from you, a lesson in manliness being possibly selfish, after you spin me a tale about manipulating someone to ''get what ever the hell you want', like that wasn't selfish was it?
'Get whatever the hell you want' oh yeah the world definitely doesn't revolve around this way of thinking does it?
Your example of 'get me a beer bitch' seems to be the common example used by feminists to stereotype any man that is confident about himself.

Problem number four. Lack of common sense. This doesn't always happen, but guys who try to look tough will sometimes discard common sense in exchange for "looking tough". If you start coughing up blood, instead of saying "naw, it's nothing", you might want to go to the doctor. Because dying is not macho.

Your problem is, you have it seems from your comments being surrounded your whole life by men who only act macho, they are not really men, men don't do that, if a situation comes along they take care of it best they can without carrying on about how great they are at fighting or something.
If I started coughing up blood I would of course go to hospital asap I'm quite aware dying isn't 'macho' you have been watching too many old movies by your childish depictions of macho men..

Problem number five. Face. This is big in Chinese culture, but applies to machoism. The face is everything. The image of of looking tough. This is just as superficial as the woman you complain about. The image becomes more importent to men then the substance. Muscle, hair, style of talk. None of which matter (no muscles matter, just not sculpted ones.) It's like hollowing yourself out.

I'm not complaining about any women as you are misleading, just stating the facts about feminist idiots.
And like I said, I'm more than aware of what talking tough and showboating is, its only done by insecure guys who want to scare the other guy away so they don't fight, and its not limited to your silly impression that guys who beef up at the gym, body sculpt are all show with nothing underneath, hollow as you put it.
Any guy can be genuinely tough, big muscled guys, sculptured guys, little thin guys, guys in between, and any guy can be the opposite as well.

There are more, but I don't want to destroy the forum. Yes, the yang/manliness is need in certain qualities. Yet you have to see the downside.

Oh your so incredibly wise, um yeah ok the yin/feminine side is also need in certain quality's, yet you also have to see a downside to it.