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Old Apr 16, 2008, 09:48 am   #349 (permalink) (top)
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The web page was of course bias in the fact they want you to buy their chewing gum to stop smoking.
The writer's of the articles are experts. KH Ginzel has studied cigarettes for 4 decades. The site did have ads, but the articles are legitimate from what I can tell.

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/Ginzel.html

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They only mentioned the trace amonot of one chemical that is found in cigarette smoke. 5 points of one billion. Like I said, nearly an undectable amount and known about to governmental regulators who set the standards for what percentage is concidered safe or not. That amount is well below the trace amounts allowed by governmental standards (the ariticle failed to note what that standard does allow for - being they are bias and do not want you to know all the facts).
According to what I read sitting in a car filled with cigarette smoke is worse for a person than the pollution in the Holland Tunnel.

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The majority of the scary information is based on guess work that is totally impossible for them to even confirm realistically.
Not guesswork, years and years of research and study. You are the one making up what you think and promoting it as legitimate when in fact the research which is ongoing says otherwise.

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They added up all the numbers of all smokers to determine how many tons of tar they all consume over a years time. Based on an idea that each smoker would take puff after puff on each cigarette consumed through-out that year, using up the total cigarette without wasting any of it.
So, it's the worst case scenario, it still is factual. Some people smoke in areas that are full of smoke like bars and in a closed in car. The pollution is very high and concentrated in these type areas, but even not, the pollution standards for clean air are stricter for factories than for smokers. This is why so many cities and states are going smoke-free.

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That nonsense is totally non-scientific and does not even meet the benchmarks for junk science let alone real science. But it might scare some people into buying a few packs of the nicotine gum they are promoting.
If you read some of the articles from Ginzel he doesn't think the nicotine substitutes are good, in fact, they are harmful, and they don't work that well.


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I said that stress is the main cause of disease, as well as micro life forms (germs). As well as some pollutants such as coal dust, etc.
I said stress has always been around and it's always been high. No doubt stress does come into play for some illnesses, but cigarettes are a known contributor to cancer, and cigarettes actually cause stress. They are a stimulant. They aren't good for you.

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I am agnostic about fossil fuel or other such pollutants being a cause unless one is already out-of-balance due to stress. I have not seen any reports that a lot of animals, birds, or even household pets, are suffering from a high rate of cancer or they they are all having pre-mature heart attacks. Which should be the case if air-quality is doing that in humans.
Actually animals in households with smokers do get more lung cancer and probably cancer in general. I've seen some reports on it. Animals in the wild don't usually have long life spans for a number of reasons, but I'd say most die fairly young just from their circumstances.

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The reason why shamans introduced smoking is because that is the fastest way to get medicene into the system or to the brain. Where as digesting it as a food would take much longer and would have less of an impact. That is why medical pot is being promoted over pills containing the same chemicals.
And how did these shamans know this? Guesswork? I'd say so. Medical pot is still debatable as to how effective it is.

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Nicotine is a medicene used to calm down the nervious system when that system is over stemulated by stress. That is what they used it for, not to look cool and what-have-you. It might be possible to use that method someday to introduce other medical drugs into the body.
If this were so great it would have already been discovered, this is the 21st century, science has come a long way.


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