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Basically what I said is that Morality Games is wrong. The logic of atheists and theists are not different. Rather the axioms that they choose are different.
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Axioms are part of logical activity because they can be expressed as propositions. My use of the term logic was valid, especially because 'axiom' is esoteric (has little meaning outside non-philosophically inclined circles).
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MG, you seem to come from the analytic tradition in philosophy
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I don't affiliate myself with analytics because there are several pervasive trends in that philosophy I don't agree with.
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so I assume you are familiar with logical positivism.
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Passing knowledge.
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I think I am a good example of this. I think of myself as fairly open-minded (you may disagree). However, when I ask myself "what would God have to do to convince me He exists?" I realize that nothing is convincing. If God taped me on the shoulder and said "I exist" I would immediately try to find a nature solution to the phenomenon. I would not accept that God exists.
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I don't doubt your receptiveness to information, but I wonder if that would really be your emotional reaction if a God-like entity was in your presence.
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The problem is that we are not strictly data interpreters. We are problem solvers. We see data and try to fit it into our existing set of beliefs. Fundamental and prior to these beliefs are fundamental axioms that are unprovable because they are created prior to reason (reason depends on them). Thus the William James quote "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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I agree we are problem solvers, but axioms can be part of the problem. While certain axioms are a genetic consequence of being human, others are acquired through experience and can be misleading. Shifts in reasoning can alter some of the axioms working in the background, so the relation between reason and axioms is not one-sided -- in many cases, both depend on each other, not just one on the other.