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Quote by: Anmon  not really, with our current nannystate school system, you would have teachers presenting it as a bad thing, going over the top as usual to influence the kids.
You cant kill a dead rabbit matt, its already dead.
And this kid here sounds like a complete wuss, 'be quiet kid and and grow a set.'
Yes everything seems to traumatize these kids easily in your view?
I think you must have weak minded easily frightened kids in mind then.
wusses
You may have to one day but, this world is falling to bits, and if we are reduced to depending on survival skills again, the children taught to hunt will logically have a better chance of survival than the ones who dont know how.
Try seeing how squeamish you feel about dead animals when theres nothing else much to eat.
See above point.
No it was to help keep the rabbit population down, and to improve our aim.
they all died for a reason, not just slaughtered for the hell of it.
Why bother to neuter and put them in cages, just kill them.
There just rabbits, their a food source thats meant to be eaten, and if theres too many of them, then blow them away. |
Umm, yeah....I know, if something is dead its dead, and you can't kill it twice. Did you read me sentence correctly? "Mommy, I saw a dead rabbit someone killed
today!" The kid is referring to a dead rabbit that that day was killed. Get it?
I'm sure if you said that to a girl, you'd get some mighty interesting answers. Seriously, its not being wuss, its being compassionate which we can use our high intellect to do.
Did I say anything else that traumatizes kids in my posts? I just said this. So please don't make assumptions
Maybe Aussie kids are different then Canadian kids. If you came here to my city and did a 'how to hunt a rabbit' demostration you'd probably get one or two kids.
Again, you are making a guess. There is no proof kids will need to know how to hunt in their lifetime at all, unless they live in some extremely poor nation like Mozambique. Also, why would they need to hunt even if that situation occurred? If anything kids should be taught to forage for roots and other edible pplant matter and herbs.
So your view is your 'aiming practice' is worth lives? Not good enough reason.
Why kill them? They never did any harm to us. We caused the problem by letting rabbits go in the wild, and we should fix it in a humane way.
You talk about them like they are nothing more then a weed, "blow them away". Karma....oh karma...
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Quote by: The Bacon Guy You don't.
That and every one of the other twenty or so definitions of natural.
But this is just semantics. Again, how is a "natural" predator preferrable, from a deer's point of view, to an "unnatural" predator?
Like I said, in an area in which deer population is maintained at an optimum level, I don't think people should hunt.
That's not things which deer have done for us; it's things which we have used deer for.
Straw man. My argument isn't that we should kill them because they haven't done anything for us; it's the we shouldn't go to the trouble of neutering them when they haven't done anything to warrant giving them considerable amount of money this would cost us.
Besides, it's "natural" for population to be kept in check by predation; not be neutering.
I didn't say it was; I said it was one of the greatest instincts. Their species wouldn't last long if it wasn't.
Humans =/= deer.
The burden of proof isn't on me. You're the one suggesting that we ban hunting and replace it with neutering. I'm asking for proof that neutering causes less suffering for a deer than death.
It has nothing to do with an emotional attachment to one's balls. A deer would be unhappy about losing its balls. A deer couldn't be unhappy about being dead, since it's dead and therefore can't feel anything. Hence, the latter option is better for the deer.
You're not a deer and neither am I.
That's purely anecdotal. And like I said, killing the young and healthy deer is a more efficient way of keeping the population down than killing old and unhealthy deer. Killing a young buck would eliminate the buck himself and also any potential offspring he may have had, whereas killing and old or sick deer will only eliminate that particular deer itself. So if you want to be killing as few deer as possible, hunting is clearly the way to go.
I would love some evidence. |
I don't understand why you keep asking me the same questions, when I already have answered them numerous times. Do you actually think you de-bunked each one and want more answers?
I answered your first question, see previous posts.
No...the deer have helped us live. Maybe if it wasn't for the deer, you would never have been born because your great great great great grandfather was starving and almost dead until he killed a dear walking right by him with a rifle.
Why not go and neuter them? I think you'd rather your tax dollars going to that re-decorating the office of a member of parliament, but I don't know you, so I can't say really.
We already screwed up 'naturalness' many years ago, and we have to start fixing it with some uniques measures, like neutering.
Ok...lets use some common sense proof (I'll go in the character of the deer...):
Option A-Get Killed: Its such a nice fall day outside, I can't wait till soandso is ready to breed. I hear something, who is there? Ahhh....dogs are after me...run...come on...you can.....run...Don't bite me there! Ouch....that hurts! *Bang!* What was that? Ahh, something is in me...I'm bleeding. I can hardly breath...all these dogs are around barking me...ahh...now I can't breath...only if I could live longer and breed....
Option B-Get Neutered: Its such a nice fall day outside, I can't wait till soandso is ready to breed. I hear something, who is there? Wawww..I feel dizzy...whats that thing sticking into to me...my eyes are closing...I can't stop 'em...I feel tired...*Neutering takes place*...what...where am I...what happened...I feel druzzy. Might aswell get up, looks like I am where I was last. Weird...I don't feel the same...I feel something missing. Anyhow, I'm still alive.
I can do part two if you wish to read more.
And again, its not all about population control...
If you want evidence...here you go: Animals and the Afterlife, by Kim Sheridan. I'm sure you can get it at your local library.