[Anmon]

=another day;495812]Yeah, and their "security training" will turn them into constant vigilantes...

You seem to be assuming I am talking about students who have undertaken security training, this is not the case, they are already trained agents posing as students.

having not much to do on a day to day basis they will start ratting on students for using drugs, eavesdropping on every conversation,

They will have plenty to do, being a student for one, means keeping up that appearance so as to fool every one, I doubt they will pass on info to the police about drugs as this could compromise their position if students suspected it was them, they are not planted there to drug bust students, but to identify potential assailants, and be ready for them should they go over the top, this would mean they would have to be careful not to alarm the potential assailant by following him around or anything, if he's going to do it, he will and they cant be everywhere at once, but they can take him down once he starts and thus limit the collateral damage.

spying on "potential assailants"...

As I covered, potential assailants could be discussed in private off campus, but not harassed followed, spied on with any means, or handed over to the police on suspicion only.
Basically this is not, and never has been intended to be a plan to save every students life in the event of a maniac(s) wrecking their revenge on them, just to hopefully be on campus when it occurs so there is someone trained to take this guys(s) out asap thus limiting student deaths.
The last thing one of these gutless psychos are going to expect as they walk around knowing and helped by all the safety procedures taught to students by the nanny state, which are don't get in the way of danger, do not try to save anyones life, wait for the authority's, hide under your desk in a defenseless position (apparently these wackos will never think of looking there) is a well trained and armed agent who looks like a student taking them out from a position out of their sight or within their sight if left with no choice, with a few well aimed shots clear to the head( the nutters could be possibly wearing Kevlar armour)

all kinds of infringements on rights will ensue if you put "state spys" undercover in every walk of life. Sorry, but i'll not trade my freedom for security.

The old slippery slide argument doesn't work sorry, what freedom are you exchanging to have some agents on the ready for this situation, unless your a psychotic nut job wanting to slaughter unarmed students yourself?
I have said these agents are not there for spying on students for anything, just to be ready if a columbine type situation occurs again.

Besides that it's a ridiculous and absurd plan that would not even work.

Spoken like a true pessimist, it would work a lot better than having no one ready, and placed on campus to deal with the situation at all wouldn't it?

Who's to say these two undercover guards will be anywhere nearby when the shooting starts? University campuses are big places.

I'm aware of that, and like I said, this was never intended to stop in its tracks every possible killing, just to limit the damage asap.

The fact is, this kind of thing by nature is completely unpredictable. All we can try to do is start fixing the society that produces this type of crime, and keep guns out of the hands of known psych patients.

And what factors do you see in society that are producing these psychos that calmly just walk into schools or offices and start to blow people away?