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Quote by: The Bacon Guy  Well, that isn't included in OLD at all and is one in about twenty eight definitions in MWD.
But I'll come clean here, Matt, and say that I have no idea what point this originally related to. So, what does that fact that humans interfered in the population of deer have to do with the question of whether we hunt them?
In a place such as a national park, in which the deer population is kept at a optimal level, I have no problem with banning hunting.
Emotional nonsense. Why should we be forced to spend ridiculous amounts of money in order to save the lives a herd of deer? To put it bluntly, what have they ever done for us?
Also, you haven't properly addressed Merc's point about neutering being worse than death. Two of the greatest instincts for an animal are survival and reproduction. An animal can't suffer if its ability to survive is taken away from it, since it's dead and can't feel anything. The same doesn't apply for an animal losing its ability to reproduce.
This will benefit neither the deer which is killed, nor the species as a whole. Also, I've still not seen evidence that hunters prefer to kill young and healthy deer.
How can they know anything after they're dead?
You're not a deer though.
The post refers to hunting; not to hunting animals other than those which will become overpopulated. |
Most of the other 17 definitions related to human emotions or things like that, if I remember correctly.
No, it related to me calling humans unnatural predators in North America. You haven't given me any evidence that we are natural predators in N. America, except for your opinion that everything is natural.
Hunting is already banned in national parks here in Canada I believe. But what about banning hunting of deer in non-park areas that won't become overpopulated?
Well, they have fed early settlers to North America with life saving food, and there skins were used as clothes, when people couldn't afford or couldn't get cotton, or other materials to make clothes out of. Also, we can't always say "Well, since that deer isn't doing anything for me, I'll go kill it!". If everyone had that opinion, this earth would be a dead zone, literally. We have to give...not just take from the earth.
How do you know that? How do you know that breeding is thee most important thing in a deers life? Have you telepathicly talked to one before? I know breeding for animals is very important, but that isn't all thats to life. Is breeding all there to life with humans? If you can some how prove that living with out balls is worse then being killed, be my guest. Men tend to put an emotional thing onto balls, and they put it onto other animals too, ever see the neuter your pet debate here? Only men, if I remember correctly, were saying that neutering can be bad.
I have a question for you, would you rather die right now, or live and get neutered? I know I would choose the latter one.
Have you ever seen a hunter go after a very old or weak deer? I haven't. I just googled deer hunting, and it seems alot of it is about "and we went looking for the biggest buck..." sort of things. Do you ever see a hunter come back and say "Look at this nice old sick deer I killed!"?
They do know what happens to them after they die....just like we would. Do you want some evidence?
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Quote by: Anmon Sorry Matt, but I gave you no thought at all when I made that post, I was blooded when I was nine with rabbits as well.
It should be mandatory so kids know survival skills (gutting and skinning, draining the blood out, and cooking it on a stick over a fire) so when they become adults they are prepared and not squeamish about killing animals if they have to.
There were a lot sometimes, we usually took home a few to throw in the freezer, the rest we just left there.
You should be shooting them then, they taste good.
It makes sense, food prices going up, bills to pay, and here a free source of available food, that is high in protein, cut down on bills.
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I actually think that would be an ok idea to do in school for kids, it would turn them to anti hunting faster then a.... "Mommy, I saw a dead rabbit someone killed today! I never want to do that to a poor bunny!". Though I think making a kid do that is cruel, and I'm sure the kid would be traumatized.
Why do they need to learn how to hunt ('survial skills')? You don't have to hunt to survive anymore. Why should they not be squeamish about killing animals? They should be squeamish about it...so they kill less.
So the rest were wasted for your enjoyment? I'm sorry, but that is just cruel.
Why would I want to snuff the life out of a poor animal that I didn't need? If I lived in that city, I'd be neutering the males myself (first learn how too) so I could put them with the females in an inclosure I would make for them.
No, the rabbits would be able to live out there lives in peace. None would be killed or eaten.