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Quote by: grandpa  Of course, private interests are increasingly taking over the federal government, so it's questionable how much good could be accomplished.
Furthermore, let's not pretend the state is defined as "cooperating with each other." It is about compulsion, pure and simple. And so is the so-called "private" realm, which is also propped up by legal coercion. To admit this would at least be intellectually honest.
Grandpa h. |
The state is not "about compulsion, pure and simple". It becomes tiresome, you know. I do not vote for my representatives based on who is going to make me do the most against my will or make someone else do the most against their will. I vote for them based on who promotes the policies I believe will serve the greater good.You prattle on about the evils of compulsion in the state as if the state serves no other purpose. To me, you sound like a teenager, bitching - "Dad grounded me. He is so stupid. Dad made me clean my room. He is such a jerk. Dad made me do my homework. He is nothing but a dictator." It is really quite simple. Some people need coercing. Some people will drive 120 miles an hour past a school. Some people will shoot you for your leather jacket. Some people will drive past your house and bust your mailbox with a baseball bat because it amuses them. Some people will live under the freedom the state secures for them and never pay a penny in taxes to support the army. Pretending that if you took the power of the state to coerce away, that those people would then settle down and behave is fantasy. Pretending that the existence of the state causes those people to exist is fantasy. No state is perfect. No state will ever be perfect. But doing away with state power because it is subject to corruption is pure madness. You may as well just go ahead and kill all people, because people are subject to corruption. Bad government is the cause of great harm, to be sure but people will lie, cheat and steal in the name and under the auspices of any damn thing you can think of. Some doctors preform unnecessary surgery to make more money. Do you suggest we do away with doctors? Some mechanics will charge you for unnecessary repairs. Shall we do away with mechanics now? Some postal workers will go nuts and shoot all their co-workers. No more mail deliverers?
Let me ask you this, if someone shot the person you most care about in this world and a policeman came to your house to ask you questions to try to put them on the trail of the killer, would you tell the nasty bastard to go away and quit trying to enforce those evil laws that shouldn't exist to begin with? Do you go buy blacktop and fill in every pot hole on the road on your way to work so that the evil, coercive tax system can be done away with? Do you give 20 bucks a week to the soldiers living in your neigborhood to pay them for what they do for you? To admit that you do not and would not would at least be intellectually honest.