[The Bacon Guy]

Quote by: Matt Actually, in North America humans are unnatural predators, see my reason in a past post.

Which post was this?

Nature is simply a word we use to describe the world around us. Nothing unnatural can ever exist becuse as soon as something exists, it is part of the physical world, part of nature and therefore natural.

Quote by: Matt The deer that may have been killed by a human could have lived out its life

Which, as far as keeping the deer population under control is concerned, is a bad thing.

Quote by: Matt or be killed by a predator who needs it later on.

Or it could be killed earlier by a predator. So why is "natural" predation superior as far as the deer are concenred?

Quote by: Matt Do you agree that if predators would be added to an area to help control deer populations that there should be a law saying the hunters can not kill the predators?

If killing the predators would mean that the deer population would then spiral out of control, then yes there should be a law against killing the predators.

Quote by: Matt Otherwise, they will most likely, from what I've heard is that they do get annoyed that the cougars/deer are killing 'their' deer and then they kill them.

That wouldn't be an issue if the wolves were present in numbers which kept the deer population down but still allowed hunters their fair share of the prey.

Quote by: Matt Again, the dictionaries' definitions do not say that if a certain species of creature does effect other species, but not its self, that it is not overpopulation. "the condition of having a population so dense as to cause environmental deterioration, an impaired quality of life, or a population crash" Many species of animals have impaired living quality because of us, and enviroment deterioration would include species going extinct or almost extinct, and the ruining of their habitat.

The definition I'm referring to when I mention overpopulation is the one which relates to carrying capacity. The definition from Meriam-Webster Medical Dictionary seems somewhat redundant, since what constitutes environmental degredation and at what point the environmental degredation indicates overpopulation, is totally subjective.