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Old Jun 28, 2004, 10:46 pm   #69 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams
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George? It's Gerry. Unless your not talking to me, and my egocentric mind has jumped the gun here...

Well I live in the UK, so Constitutional Law does not apply. We don't have an entrenched constitution, Parliament is sovereign here, not the people or the Constitution. Therefore Parliament can change the constitution on a vote, which combined with our disciplined party's, makes it very easy to change the constitution. As Lord Hailsham said, the UK has an elected dictatorship. I don't see how rights cannot exist side by side with socialism, at least the brand I advocate. The right to free expression, association, equality (of oppurtunity), freedom from torture, freedom to develop as one wishes (providing it does not negatively impact anothers development without consent) etc. The only limitation would be that the means of production (land, factories, utilities) would be owned by everyone in that community. In order to share in them, one must contribute to maintain them, or have someone explicitly consent to shouldering your burden (most likely through an entire group, so should a full time minister, they could split his share of work among them). "Private" property would remain private, that is to say, property that you or your family alone use, whose use impacts only on you or your family, remains private.

But, as the only way this kind of community could come about and persist is after a revolution (peaceful or violent), the Constitution would not be a worry for anyone wishing to establish such as community in the US.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
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