[another day]

Quote by: Matt Oh come on...get real. If you want to turn this into a 'why we shouldn't eat meat' thread, be my guest. But the original intent was to talk about hunting, not eating meat.

That's like saying that this is a thread about christianity, not about god. The two are inevitably related and therefore you must talk about them both if you want any kind of meaningful, relevant discussion.

If you say one thing is bad (eg. hunting) it doesn't mean the other is better or more humane (eg. factory farms).

No, it means either you think farming animals is a better method of procuring meat then hunting them, or that you think all meat eating is bad, in which case your "hunting=bad" position is simply part of a larger worldview that all meat eating is bad. Therefore we cannot attack your position on hunting without attacking your position on meat eating as a whole. To only attack your position on hunting, your position would have to be based on certain factors such as the one that farming is more humane compared to hunting, or that farming is more beneficial to the environment. But that's not your position... it's simply that meat-eating = wrong therefore hunting=wrong. So it brings us back to the vegetarian debate.

I thought if people wanted to talk about not eating meat, they could go to the vegertarian thread.Some people can't find that. I was focussing on a topic, hunting. I don't understand how people can think if I say hunting is bad then I'm saying factory farms are better. Please explain. I love it how people try to swing the topic to make it suit them better Won't work in the long run, sorry.

Why didn't you just talk about hunting in the vegetarian thread? It's all related. You say people are trying to swing the topic to suit them better, infact that's not the case. It's YOU who has created a narrowed down, niche focussed thread on hunting in an attempt to manipulate the discourse by saying people cannot bring vegetarianism into the mix, therefore making it impossible for people to refute your position.

By saying that 'no animal exsists to feed you' means that it may end up on your dinner plate, sure, but its life purpose is NOT to feed you.

Life purpose? What is it's life purpose? The only purpose of anything that exists is to serve as a strand in the web of nature. A big part of that web is that everything eats everything else. Circle of life and all that. You can't say an animal has a "life purpose" any more then you can a tree. It wasn't that tree's life purpose to end up as my house, but it was my need to use that tree for my purpose. Purposes only exist to fill needs. One of my needs is food. Animals fill that purpose. I'm not gonna be sentimental about it, it's the harsh reality of nature.