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Old Apr 10, 2008, 10:10 pm   #62 (permalink) (top)
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No, not all trends do. But most non fad things do, and I'm very confident this trend will continue.
I'm afraid your confidence alone is not enough to convince me.

Although, now that I think about it, why would a decrease in the number of hunters be a reason to ban it? If the decrease is such that culling is not enough to keep down the deer population, then we can, as you say, introduce the predators. But why should this mean that hunters can't still have their share of the prey? As with any species introduction, the introduction of wolves and cougars would have to be strictly monitored and controlled. So why not control it in such a way that there is a balance between the predators and the hunters? That way everyone is happy.

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The only predicter for future behavior is past behavior. Past behavior: In the last hundred years people have been growing more considerate to animals year by year. I think it will be pretty simple to guess if you follow that simple, proved logic to see what happens from here
The idea that the trend will continue is not proved logic; it's an anecdotal generalisation from your personal observations.

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Well, we humans are casuing enviromental deterioration, some of resources are running lower and its just a matter of time until a couple them go all together, and alot of people around the world are experiencing famines and diseases.
Famine and disease are not prevalent in North America, environmental damage is not significant (by this I mean it isn't yet life threatening), and the the depletion of oil and other resources is not life threatening to us while other potential energy sources exist. Yes, some things we are experiencing can be caused by overpopulation, but as long as the human population continues to thrive, the carrying capacity has not been exceeded and we are not overpopulated.

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Lets see...if we re-introduced a sustainable predator who will want to hunt deer in a 100 years from now, we wont have an overpopulation. Though some people are just too greedy to do that....they want to hunt and feel all 'masculine'.
You can make hunting sound as pathetic and distasteful as you like, but ultimately you still don't have the right to prevent people from doing so unless you can prove that, from the point of view of the hunted animal, death from a hunter is significantly worse than death from a "natural" predator.

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I would like to ask you a question, what do you think about the hunting of moose, bears, cougars, and wolves which do not have an overpopulation?
I don't know a great deal about it, so I haven't formed an opinion on it.
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