Volconvo Debate Forums - View Single Post - Tibet is, was, and will always be part of China?

vysis · Apr 10, 2008, 05:40 pm

I feel like I'm not getting one very very very basic point across.

The "riots" in Tibet are violent.
The "riots" in Tibet are getting innocent people killed.
The "riots" in Tibet aren't Riots. Its an rebellion.

Of course China would sent the military in. Of course they would use weaponary. They are fully justified to do so.

Canada mobilize their forces and declared martial law over the October Crisis. And that was over 12 guys who were making bombs in their basement and blowing up the mailboxes of english speaking french people.

Now of course, pro-Tibet people would say that "The Chinese Government is abusing human rights." or "The Chinese government is using excessive force"

Do you know why? Because Tibetans aren't co-operating. Of course we have to use force. If a angry mobs comes at you, of course you wouldn't attack them. Any basic human being knows that. You ask them to stop, of course they wont stop. That is when you are forced to use violence. But then people moan and whine about human about.

Article 20 in The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association."

However, the riots aren't peaceful. Do you really think the Chinese government, or even the soldiers would stand and watch as rioters threaten their safety and the safety of those around them? Of COURSE NOT.

To further prove my point.

YouTube - Tibet violence march 15th 2008

The only crime this man commited is being Han Chinese and as a result One Tibetan (the red guy) Grabs a rock and beings violently beating the Motorist. Not only does nobody stop the red guy, several other rioters join and and begin pelting stones at his motorcycle.

Please take a look of any of these videos. I deliberatly avoided videos that may have connection with the Chinese government because I know you would say that they would not be trustworthy. However, even if they did originate from The Chinese government, it still does not break the fact that these are videos. Videos cannot be photoshopped

YouTube - FACE THE TRUTH OF TIBET VIOLENCE WITH NEW ZEALAND MEDIA

YouTube - [Sky News] Dozens Killed In Tibet Riots 2008.03.15

Take a look at the beginning, by no means peaceful.

YouTube - Tibetan Violence captured by Australian Tourist in Tibet

I am sure after seeing these vidoes that you would agree with me that China was MORE then justified to use to force it did to quelch this quasi-rebellion.

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vysis Sedimentary Rock Posts: 10	I feel like I'm not getting one very very very basic point across. The "riots" in Tibet are violent. The "riots" in Tibet are getting innocent people killed. The "riots" in Tibet aren't Riots. Its an rebellion. Of course China would sent the military in. Of course they would use weaponary. They are fully justified to do so. Canada mobilize their forces and declared martial law over the October Crisis. And that was over 12 guys who were making bombs in their basement and blowing up the mailboxes of english speaking french people. Now of course, pro-Tibet people would say that "The Chinese Government is abusing human rights." or "The Chinese government is using excessive force" Do you know why? Because Tibetans aren't co-operating. Of course we have to use force. If a angry mobs comes at you, of course you wouldn't attack them. Any basic human being knows that. You ask them to stop, of course they wont stop. That is when you are forced to use violence. But then people moan and whine about human about. Article 20 in The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association." However, the riots aren't peaceful. Do you really think the Chinese government, or even the soldiers would stand and watch as rioters threaten their safety and the safety of those around them? Of COURSE NOT. To further prove my point. YouTube - Tibet violence march 15th 2008 The only crime this man commited is being Han Chinese and as a result One Tibetan (the red guy) Grabs a rock and beings violently beating the Motorist. Not only does nobody stop the red guy, several other rioters join and and begin pelting stones at his motorcycle. Please take a look of any of these videos. I deliberatly avoided videos that may have connection with the Chinese government because I know you would say that they would not be trustworthy. However, even if they did originate from The Chinese government, it still does not break the fact that these are videos. Videos cannot be photoshopped YouTube - FACE THE TRUTH OF TIBET VIOLENCE WITH NEW ZEALAND MEDIA YouTube - [Sky News] Dozens Killed In Tibet Riots 2008.03.15 Take a look at the beginning, by no means peaceful. YouTube - Tibetan Violence captured by Australian Tourist in Tibet I am sure after seeing these vidoes that you would agree with me that China was MORE then justified to use to force it did to quelch this quasi-rebellion.