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Old Jun 28, 2004, 09:14 pm   #63 (permalink) (top)
ComradeRed
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Aggh! So many needless posts

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1: They are being somehow paid to do so. Paid in money, chickens, favors, something; one way or another, they are recieving something in exchange for their Labour. Does not your society, which proposes that the Worker recieve nothing in exchange for his labour except the vauge and nebulous "Fulfillment" only serve to further alienate the Worker from his Produce, therefore worsening an already bad situation? Some varieties of Communist ( I was one such ) propose a "Social Credit" theory, in which X amount of work is worth Y amount of stuff; a straight-across trade. However, this system would be unduly vulnerable to graft, fraud, and corruption of all sorts; having a money system in place actually helps limit such things, because money is, supposedly, finite. Finite means of exchange means finite fraud. However, in a system where all means of exchange exist only on paper, those means can be inflated to infinite proportions, which means that infinite fraud is not only possible, but inevitable.
You assume that this is the correct answer. Why? Because its cultural. It is "natural" in a capitalist culture to pay people to do what you do not want to do. I recommend you read Redstar2000's Who will clean the sewers???

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Scrubbing floors, working in coal-mines, smelting steel, and stitching shoes will always need doing, and no amount of study in The Science of Communism will make these jobs pleasant or fulfilling.
I -actually- smelt steel and stitch shoes. I have a home-made forge in the backyard (I'll borrow my friend's digital camera to show you guys sometime!), I actually make my own shoes, because I make them better than companies(!).

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Thats a nice op-ed piece, but until socialism adopts constitutional limitations, it is a farce. Until it accepts the reality that individualism does exist, it is a joke.
I can't disprove things that don't exist, so until you can prove it exists(besides a "scientific axiom") I can't disprove it. So, go ahead, prove to me that individualism exists.

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Are artists and mathmaticians the same? Are geophysicists and musicians the same?
Yes, they all have the poteunt to be the same.

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I agree, classism is a problem, but adressing the way a person perceives or aquires personal satisfaction is not the problem, it is the allowance of gross unchecked wealth obtained by exploiting the weakness of mankind through manipulation of NECESSITIES that is the problem.
I agree. And?

By "acquiring personal satisfaction" what do you mean?
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