[nature of reality]

first something i wanted to respond to a bit back...

(blackfox)
"But you are wrong to think that you can get people to do things for love indefinitely without paying them a proper wage. Cuba still has well trained people; however the vast majority of them have to supplement their income doing a second job or the other. "

Prositution is rampart in Cuba as a second choice job.. This makes Cuba quite angry, as its destruction of government property upsets it.



"You have a funny definition of consent? Hey you, starving country, want some food? Well your gonna have to cut all subsidies, take away all public health support and slash your education budget like theres no tommorow. Yes we know without education your country can't actually improve, but we don't want you to, cause then we'd have to pay your better wages! So get into those factories and stitch some shirts for 60cents an hour. "


Yep, and they CONSENT to this. We don't hold a gun to their head and make them trade. you might want to take notes on how that is done *cough*.


"Capitalism is not a political system, it is an economic one, and is compatible with authoritarean regimes. IE China"

"There are no laizzes-faire economies, so to try and hold China, which is a burgeoning capitalist state, up to such a comparison is meaningless.

Of course China improves as authoritarianism is picked apart, this is nearly always the case. So whats your point? "


Again, do you read your own posts? So as captalism immerges, an authoritarian regime breakes apart, but they are perfectly compatable? The thing is Capitalism is about Political Rights, in its essense. The right to be left alone, and not coerced about economic issues. Socialism is about "economic rights", which are in direct contrast with political rights, as they detract from the rights of others, and require a strong government to enforce the state of unnaturality which is socialism.


Also, another thing implicit is that a detraction from authoriatarism is what caused the improved economy, and if it was capitalism, or your odd economic form, the result would be the same.


STOPE EVADING THIS ISSUE. If your economy isn't market (based on mutual consent to mutual advantage), or Command (fear and power), then what the hell does it operate?