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Old Apr 9, 2008, 09:22 pm   #47 (permalink) (top)
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Did I ever say it was moral to eat meat buyed at the supermarket? No, I didn't. I don't want to turn this into another vegetarian thread. The topic is about hunting.

Well, where I live, people do go after the biggest bucks.

No, not in North America. Deer were here long before man.
No it's not really about hunting. Once again your just trying to push the message that it's wrong for people to eat meat. But if you are questioning whether hunting or raising and slaughtering farm animals is more humane, there is no debate, hunting is a more humane way of getting meat.

The animals get to live their natural lives in the wild until they get killed by a predator (man)... That's a perfectly natural life for a wild animal..On the other hand you have animals that are raised from birth to death in cramped cages, for the sole purpose of being slaughtered for meat. You honestly don't see how hunting is much more natural and humane?

As for "no animal exists to feed you"... that is ridiculous. Everything exists to nurture everything else. For you to live, something else must die, whether it be a plant or an animal. There is nothing wrong with killing something else to survive. It's the law of nature.

The problem here lies in the perverse detachment from nature that these so-called animal lovers and "nature lovers" have. They have become so detached from nature and so firmly within their human society that they personalize and humanize WILD animals... they see nature not as something they are living in, but as an outside world that you "go to"... the forest for example. They don't live with nature, they live in a world outside it, and see nature as something detached from themselves. They would be the first ones to die in a survival situation because they would be too squeamish and sentimental to kill and eat other animals to survive. It's really a form of neurosis, stemming from the modern man's corrupted mind.

As for your "man is not a natural predator" garbage, it's the same misunderstood version of reality your spewing. Man is a natural predator by the very virtue that we hunt and kill things. There can be no such thing as "unnatural" if it exists in reality.

Our only responsibility is to be prudent in ensuring the future of all species that we hunt, by limiting the numbers killed. I also think we should ban the waste of meat from hunting, so "trophy" hunting would be outlawed.

Could we survive without eating meat? Probably.
But 1.) You would have to outlaw not only hunting, but raising and farming animals, as well as selling or consuming meat. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that would be? A war on drugs times a million.

2.) Why should we? Animals taste good and nurture our bodies with much needed protein, iron and other nutrients. The fact that you liek to attach emotional feelings to wild animals as a result of watching too many Disney movies with talking deer, doesn't mean it's virtuous to reject the way of nature. There is no sentimentality in nature. Lions eat buffalo alive, chewing on their legs and backs while the animal is still completely alive. Sure we should as humans try to make their deaths as painless as possible, but you still haven't presented a case for WHY we should reject eating meat.


What a piece of work is man! How noble in reason! The paragon of animals! And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me; no, nor woman neither..
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