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Old Apr 9, 2008, 05:52 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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However, the very basis for the being's knowledge that the action will occur is that the action will occur, and in a free will worldview, the action occurs because the actor chooses to act. The only reason that the omniscient being knows the action will occur is because it will occur, and the only reason the action will occur is because of the actor's decision.
As noted in my last post in reply to Dr_Acula, the free will requires ignorance of what will happen. If we knew everything that would happen, nothing would be contingent, and thus, no action would be considered free. By saying that the action will occur means that no other outcome was possible, and therefore, there was no free choice.

Either you have to deny the definition of free will, or accept that knowledge of the future implies no free will.

Another problem is that you're having an action in the present (the knowing of what will happen) be a result of the future. It is a problem to have a being's knowledge at a point in time rely on something that hasn't happened yet. You're trying to get away with saying the future happened before the present so that god's knowledge depends on the future as if it had already happened.


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