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Old Apr 9, 2008, 02:11 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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The answer your trying to move everyone to is the acceptance of natural causes for everything as the standard accepted answer in every case.
I am trying to get a theist to critically think. How does one solve a problem? How does one play detective? How does one use the clues? How does one investigate?
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The result would be all people assuming everything has a perfectly natural non divine cause.
There is no result. It is learning how to investigate. It is learning how to explain how things work and using that information to explain more unknown events.
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There can't be a standard explanation for everything because any type of explanation is dependent on the person making the call.
That is how it works in religious circles, but not scientific ones.

Here is how science works...

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The preferable explanation should be explained with constructs that can either be directly or indirectly observed.
How else would one come up with an explanation?
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The preferable explanation should predict as much of what we have observe as possible.
This is a tough one. Predictions must be made. And once they are made, do they turn out to be correct?
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The preferable explanation should lead to the discovery of new phenomena
Well if the explanation is suppose to be fruitful, then it is suppose to yield results. You don't say this car can fly without showing people the car can fly, right? What good is a claimed fruitful explanation that does not provide any evdience that it is a fruitful explanation?
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The preferable explanation should be consistent with other preferred explanations.
This is simple logic. You don't build a house with 5 different blue print instructions. Consistency and simplicity are the ways processes get accomplished.

And of course....
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All of this should be done with as much honesty as the participants can muster.
Because what kind of mongoloid would want to be steered in the wrong direction? Why would people want to study information that does not actually provide results? Why would people want to study made up information?


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