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Old Mar 31, 2008, 04:53 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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The indegenous islanders (if sufficient numbers existed) certainly could, logically,
hold forth for independence if they wished it.
Hawaii was most certainly not an American colony in the
first place.
If they wished it, I might respect their wishes. If you look at powerful nations, it's not only stupidity or racism on their part causes some of them to stray into other regions. Often, it's a matter of subjugating others and commandeering their resources.

However, conquerers end up creating their own problems. Obviously, if you're dependent on some central authority and you want to blame any group for society's ills, you might reasonably look to whoever you are under.
After all, you likely didn't even want to be dependent. Of course, it's even more reasonable for those who assume subservience is never in their interest. But, on the side of authority, there is plenty of propaganda to beat back such feelings, as well as actual physical coercion lurking in the background.

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