[Chris the Chees]

Aboslutlely not, as that is not how the document reads, nor was it the authors intent.

Really, well I am sorry to inform you of the realities of first stages in the history of United States, the same history you look back on with such adoration. To expand, while the majority of the founding fathers were in favour of abolition, or so they claimed, it didn't stop them doing anything serious about the institution, stop them profiting from slavery and nor did it stop Jefferson from having slaves lashed and advertise for runaways. There is a very good reason why the constitution made no reference to slavery, and that is because the founding fathers were racists, who considered black people to be inferior and, while they may have spoken against the institution, weren't willing to do anything about it because it would damage their own personal funds as well as the economy, especially in the South.

To tell you a true story, a pair of Methodist preachers, touring large parts of the United States in 1784, were invited to the home of one such founding father. They asked the founding father if he would sign a petition requesting the abolition of slavery. The preachers presented unto the 'great man' their petition. His response was to inform the preachers that he shared their sentiments and had told leading individuals of the state, but that it would not be 'proper' to sign any such petition. I will let you guess which of the founding fathers that was. But that, my dear Milton, sums up the founding fathers when it comes to the issue of slavery, good sentiments but abject refusal to take action.

To quote William W. Freehling, who wrote an article on this topic back in the 70's: -

"The realization of the Founding Fathers' antislavery dream was blocked also by the concern for property rights articulated in their Declaration. Jefferson's document at once denounced slave chains as immoral and sanctioned slave property as legitimate. It made the slave's right to freedom no more "natural" than the master's right to property."

William W. Freehling, 'The Founding Fathers and Slavery', The American Historical Review, Vol. 77, No. 1. (Feb., 1972), p. 83.

That is libertarianism in reality, rather than the utopian dreams I see nurtured on the internet. Property and profit are more important than humanity.

No, pay attention, Ohio is a Province ( fo the sake of ridicule, but we both know it's a State, and where that State is located ), Comerica is the country. ( I expected a little more from a Moderator, but since you obviously cannot mask your bias, or your contempt, I'll lower my expectations. )

Eh? Did you read what I said?

Chris was ridiculing your typo

I wasn't ridiculing him for that at all, I make typo's all the time; as I said when i wrote it.

the only reason it's being discussed is becuase you brought it up.

Whatever, you stick to your logical fallacy if you want. I am not going to play that game with you; I'm just going to stick to the debate, which you seemingly have little left to add to.

Hahahahaha..., ah, that's precious.

Is it precious that I, seemingly, know much more about the history of your world view than you do?

Quote by: The Decider What evidence do you have that the US Constitution's writers did not intend to protect an institution they freely participated in and supported?

He hasn't got any, because that was exactly their intention. As I said above, they didn't like slavery; but they were more than happy to protect it because it made them and the US money.

Chris was ridiculing your typo, and even stated the same

I didn't ridicule him at all. I genuinely didn't know what the hell he was blabbering about, beyond a guess that he had made a typo. I certainly didn't ridicule him for it, as I said I can sympathise with both poor spelling and typos because I make them all the time.