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Quote by: Muckraker  So, per my Moh's Hardness Scale example, you are proposing that science is at fault if it ignores someone who claims to possess a mineral that is harder than diamond but that individual won't say what it is, where it can be found, or let any anyone else attempt to scratch a diamond with it?
I suspect you have this idea that scientists sit around over a few beers and laugh about all the things that really exist but that aren't "facts" because "science" doesn't recognize them. It doesn't work that way. Until the person with the mineral that is harder than diamond produces said mineral, and experiments are run on it, scientists do not spend a moment's thought on the matter. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Proposing that scientists are indoctrinated and brainwashed because they do not "believe" in that which cannot be measured or observed (the mineral harder than diamond) is illogical. Measurement and oberservation are fundamental to science. Requesting that scientists stray from these fundamentals is like asking a mathematician to keep in mind that there are secret, uncountable numbers in the universe that can never be known and that he needs to factor them into his equations. It's like asking a botanist why they aren't studying the reproduction habits of the GibGib Tree (a tree that, in the field of botany, doesn't exist and has never existed).
To science, talk is cheap. The guy with the super-hard mineral can talk all he wants. He can write a whole encyclopedia set about how cool the super-hard mineral is. But until he shows measureable and observable proof of the mineral's existence, science will not acknowledge its existence. We cannot make saw blades coated with super-hard mineral dust until the existence of super-hard mineral is scientifically confirmed. |
So your suggesting religion is trying to suppose itself greater than some scientific thought?
Well that is true for some fundamentalist when dealing with creationism perhaps but most of what christianity is a belief system. Atheists like to claim they have no belief system so how can religion be offering a conflicting belief?
Faith offers a mother something to cling to when she loses a child, offers an old dying man a happiness that his death is only a beginning, and many other wonders in basic life.
Is this threatening to science somehow? And what does science offer than these thoughts are supplanting? Science has not brought anyone back from the dead and can only offer answers to specific questions related to events and happenings we can currently measure.
Belief is separate from science yet science continually tries to interject itself into belief. Science says it has no evidence for an afterlife so an afterlife must not exist. Thats not fact, thats willful manipulation of information, and molding people to accept information science can't even study as fact.