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Old Mar 27, 2008, 09:36 pm   #115 (permalink) (top)
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I see. Any science doesn't do the same? Instead of teaching about eternal damnation it teaches children they can only be intelligent beings if they accept basic tenants of the belief system that is atheism and objective thought.
That's a bit paranoid, don't you think? Science teaches what can be investigated using the scientific method.... observation, measurement, experimentation, etc.

Science makes no judgements about religion because it has no way of investigating it. Additionally, science constantly changes when it finds new and better information.

Alas, being based entirely on ancient dogma, Religion has neither the flexibility to change nor the capacity to accept new information that contradicts the inflexible dogma.

That is not, however, the fault of science, nor is it proof that science is out to "GET" religion.

A related example: Christian Moral Relativity.

Both the Old and New Testaments make quite clear that they have no serious problems with the institution of slavery. Which is fine when you understand that 2,000 years ago, slavery was an accepted and indespensible part of nearly all advanced economies.

Today, on the other hand, slavery is reviled as completely immoral. How does Christianity deal with this evolution? Not well, I'm afraid. Since religious dogma has to be both infallible and inflexible, Christians are left to a) ignore the issue when possible or b) claim poor translations have mis-represented what the ancients actually thought about slavery.

So it is with science... when science and dogma conflict, the choices are to a) claim the Bible was meant more as poetry than literal, factual narrative, and we should read it as such, or b) science is simply wrong because the Bible can't be.

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I suppose if you are an atheist who 100% denies any possibility of any god(s) then could could call yourself lacking any belief. Any amount of low probabilities of existence bring admission you don't know for sure so your required to use a slight amount of belief.
I'm one of those, I'm afraid. There's not a shred of doubt in my mind that god(s) do not exist. Their existance defies every sense of reality I have. It does not, however, mean that I have no beliefs. They simply don't involve the existance of god(s).

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Well for one so much grief could be avoided if people listened and followed authority. For one there would be no need for that authority to use subvert methods to seek control, since the population already respects and follows the control.
Human authority is fallable, since humans are. The authority of God(s) is unassailable, and their judgements final.

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