[leegao]

Quote by: Matt Quote by: leegao Strictly speaking, after-life is not Heaven, but rather the continuation of an individual's existence after his/her physical death. Since we have vast amounts of evident showing that the mind can be explained by physical means, we can stick to the materialistic argument that if the body cease to exist then the conscious mind will also cease to exist after the physical death. Also, I believe what matt is trying to do here is to start with the premise that there's an afterlife, then there's this leap in logic with the conclusion that an after-life proves the existence of God. From there on he could support his views on creationism. Yep, that is what I was trying to get at.

I do agree that the debaters in this area should keep an open mind since the debate is "Creationism vs. Evolution" not solely Evolution.

2 Immediate problems with this argument.

First is obvious, as I said, you made a leap in logic with the presumption that the existence of an after-life proves the existence of God. The only support you put out was a circular statement:

After-life proves the existence of God because After-life necessitates a God.

So what many of the people at this board were asking you to do was to explain thoroughly why the existence of an after-life proves the existence of God or why does an after-life necessitates a God.

The next problem concerns with the initial presumption of a very debatable subject, the existence of an After-life.

First of all, due to the fact that the existence of an after-life is not a physical "fact", mere examples or observances can not be used to fully support this presumption. The only way to prove the existence of an after-life then, is through rationalism.