[Muckraker]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Correct, I'm ignorant of all of the details surrounding this case. Well, first the "established rules", and the "established authoriteis" have to be proven to be operating withing the bounds of the constitution. If not, they are not legitimate authorities, or rules, and need not be followed by citizens.

Why? The constitution is a general guide, not a catch-all document. So you will not pull over when a police car has its sirens on because the constitution did not mention police or police cars? You will travel at twice the posted speed because the constitution doesn't mention speed limits?

Being as the constitutionality of the laws are what's being questioned in this case, my sympathies lie with those who are "innocent until proven guilty", and not the hired thugs with license to kill.

"Questioning" a law you have a problem with is vastly different than disobeying a law you have a problem with. The appropriate path is to obey the law but the question the law, get the law changed, and then obey the new law you agree with.

Had you been paying attention, I was not championing their cause, but commenting on the tactics, and protocols of law enforcement.

I forgot you were a fan of guns. I imagine it would be annoying to know that the government wouldn't come and knock on your door and say it was a fascist gun squad coming to take away your constitutional rights. The chance that you may not have time to get to your cache of weapons because the enemy is being "secretive" must keep you quite on edge.

Why in the world would federal agents come knock on the door and put their own lives at risk? Taser first, ask questions later. It's better for both parties that way. When you know the fed is coming you end up with things like Waco.

I see no problem at all with agents performing the most logical "operations" for the situation. It makes a great video for the fascist fodder websites but the end result is that no agents were killed or injured, the target wasn't killed or injured, and no property was damaged.

If I was on PCP and waving an Uzi around I would much prefer the cops sneak around and taser me from behind before "identifying themselves." If they did walk up and identify themselves then maybe I would shoot and kill a few of them and then maybe they would snipe my head off. Seems like a hefty price to pay and the only difference is that it gives me a chance to do something I will regret later.

Well, see there, you have just described me.

You should do more research before muddying your own reputation with greedy pigs like the Browns. You are a tax protester. The Browns are criminals living it up in a mansion on a hill.

The fundamental problem with your position is that you don't have many positive role models to side with. The Browns are pigs. The Branch Davidians were a bunch of child-molesting cultists. And peaceful tax protesters like yourself don't make the news until you become extremists.