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Quote by: Isherwood  So we can't grasp it or understand it, yet we can put conditions on it. That simply makes no sense. Either it's unknown and we can't say anything about it at all, or we know enough about it to be able to say what it can and cannot be. It can't be both.
Science tries to make sense of nature by examining evidence. When there is no evidence, such as in the case of an afterlife, it can reach no conclusions. The supernatural, if it even exists, is beyond the interest of science.
I, too, would enjoy seeing that proof. But not in this thread. It has nothing to do with the evolution vs. creationism debate. |
"Animals and the Afterlife", by Kim Sheridan. I'm sure you can get it at your library.
In this world, we are looking for instant answers. Sometimes we can't get them, and we may never until we go into the next stage. Though in the case an afterlife, we are given some proof that it does exsist. Some people want to throw that proof out of the window, afraid it may harm their beliefs.
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Quote by: gallo This is you answer to my question? My question was, "why can't there be an afterlife without a god/gods?" Your answer was the above question. As has been pointed out, there are religions that believe in an after life without gods. Gods are not necessary.
Asked and answered.
What is it that needs to be made?
But no one has ever claimed that it has anything to do with your misunderstanding of science or evolution. No one claims that an afterlife is the result of evolution.
Yes. It is not about the afterlife
Because you are discussing neither creationism nor evolution. You are discussing your superstitions.
Nonsense. Once again. You are discussing neither creationism nor evolution. So, unless you can actually add something meaningful and on topic to the discussion, I won't be responding to your superstitious rants in the future. |
I'm trying to get to my point, though with people like you I don't think I ever will. And no, they are not superstitions.
I'm starting to see its useless to debate this topic with people that are either way one sided or have a closed mind. I know I'm one sided, but I thought I would just bring up one point that could prove my case. Though with the local 'creationism' attackers, it gets pretty hard.
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Quote by: leegao Strictly speaking, after-life is not Heaven, but rather the continuation of an individual's existence after his/her physical death. Since we have vast amounts of evident showing that the mind can be explained by physical means, we can stick to the materialistic argument that if the body cease to exist then the conscious mind will also cease to exist after the physical death.
Also, I believe what matt is trying to do here is to start with the premise that there's an afterlife, then there's this leap in logic with the conclusion that an after-life proves the existence of God. From there on he could support his views on creationism. |
Yep, that is what I was trying to get at.
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Look at that book I suggested above....