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Quote by: Lullaby Atheists.. they go to Hell What are your thoughts on atheists?

I should have known...things never change. Ever.

The answer to all your questions are simply...no.
So in essence I'm a Christian who thinks the Bible has its fallibilities and thinks that good will towards man is good enough.

Religion doesn't hurt in my opinion though.

Ya, We've already established I'm strange for a Christian (I take into account what makes sense.)

Edit: Crap, I didn't realize this was 5 pages long. I'll read it asap. But I want to go to bed soon so...
(Oh and if nothing else, I want to complement Lindsay7 on his/her sweat taste in avitars. Nice picture.)

Quote by: halo But since atheists don't believe that there is a god, then wouldn't we be doomed to hell?

This came from ages ago, but I still have to respond. I think Atheists would call it your inner holy ghost by another name. Same with other religions and so on. But no exact translations.

Quote by: lindsay7 The bible says that the earth was created within a matter of days, but this isn't literal, 24 hours days. It's a metaphor, a place holder for an amount of time. God is outside of time and space, where God exists, there is no time.

I've been looking for this argument. And considering there were no literal days until the sun was created anyway...

Quote by: sonart Number one, how do you know that God is outside time and space? He/She tell you, or is that simply a convenient explanation that allows you to wiggle out of the subsequent debunking of obsolete Biblical scientific knowledge... or lack thereof?

God defies current human logic, therefore giving the Christians the easier side of this argument. God can do whatever God wants, Including defy time and space. This will always be a hard argument to fight against.
Doesn't that just suck for all the Atheists? ;p

Genesis also said that God created day and night... and then, three days later, created the sun. Not THAT'S a neat trick, since day and night are DEFINED by the sun. Are you now going to tell me that God is outside of time, space and language?

Hey, God speaks Hebrew. The Christians have translated it from that to other things, and I can't help if they screwed that up.

Quote by: navyrkh First off, God's Word is perfect and does not contradict itself.

Say what you want, it certainly develops into something different halfway through.

Quote by: Tycoon A major contradiction of the very first part of the bible! You are merely trying to cling onto your faith because you think it will earn you something, despite the many obvious flaws and contradictions.

I think your jumping to conclusions. Motivations are hard to pin down even when they are your own.

Anyhoo, I'm sticking to the faith for reasons unrelated to the Bible.

Quote by: Tycoon To my knowledge most people only believe in God because they were raised to believe in God and because they think if they stop believing they will go to Hell.

Valid, but is a hasty conclusion to say that "most people" includes us (though I probably fall in that category in some sense.)

I'm sorry to say, but in attempting to prove that Genesis doesn't contradict science you're only creating more contradictions. Day and night would have no meaning without anything to define them (i.e. the Earth and the Sun). Therefore the planets and the stars were created before day and night. It also defies the Big Bang theory.

Meaning Moses, or whoever wrote Genesis didn't get the memo.

I think that's just a translation problem. Not just language. Try telling the slaves of Egypt about the Big Bang and the Bible actually being understood.

This is the goal of the Bible.

Quote by: Isherwood Exactly the point. The terms are used in that passage because humans wrote it, humans who couldn't imagine anything beyond days and nights. Actually it's translated "evening and morning", so it's even more off base in saying that evening and morning (essentially night) was the first day, second day, et cetera. Had the writers of the Talmud understood what caused night and day they might have chosen to be a bit more metaphysical in describing the creation story.

What I just wrote above to Tycoon should fit this well enough.