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Old Mar 24, 2008, 05:21 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Remember, words refer to images -- language attempts to describe the logical structure of images as they appear in the mind's eye...
Words are limited to just images? Words represent concepts, concepts can be either concrete (something directly perceivable) or abstract (which are not directly perceivable).

I'm sort of opposed to your definition of what language attempts to do. Language is not limited to the images we see...

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...the real purpose of my speech is to communicate complex ideas in the most effective way possible -- it is hardly surprising this way appears similar to the one employed by professional philosophers, who, as a rule of thumb, attempt to explain complex ideas in the most effective way possible.
If your goal is effective communication then you have to keep two things in mind. Why you want to communicate—your purpose and who you are communicating with—your audience.

You stated your purpose: "communicate complex ideas in the most effective way possible", but I don't think you are keeping your audience in mind. Communication works two ways. Not only do you have to be clear in what you are saying, but you have to make sure that the person you are communicating with understands what you are saying (I need to work on this second part a bit more).

If, as Helio, pointed out, he has trouble understanding what you are saying in your heavy academic tone, it would be the courteous thing to do to write your responses in a less scholarly manner.

There's no point in being here on a public debate forum if you cannot communicate your ideas on a level one can easily understand. If one's goal is to "effectively communicate complex ideas" then one should take effort to communicate complex ideas so that people who may not think as abstractly and as complex as you do can understand them. Otherwise you might as well keep your knowledge to yourself for all the good it will do you.

As a side note, I have always found that many philosophers hide their ideas under complex sentences and high vocabulary levels so that the common mind does not understand the irrational trash they are promoting. In your case I think you may just be emulating the archaic, traditional "academic" way of communicating ideas. Since you are communicating on a much more casual debate forum you can talk much more simply and still get your complex ideas across effectively.


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