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Quote by: another day That's not what I meant. What I meant was that any evidence that there was NO CONSPIRACY, strictly for example lets say 9/11... is said to simply be further evidence of more conspiracy. Ie: say a blackbox was found on which muslims can be heard speaking arabic while they hijack the plane etc.. conspiracy theorists can brush this off and say it is just another part of the conspiracy, that it was fabricated by the conspirators. This can be said of any evidence that goes against a conspiracy theory.

I'm sorry, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. An insufficiency of evidence to support any particular theory does not constitute evidence of "no conspiracy." And the fact that some people will reject any evidence which contradicts their view as "falsified" does not negate the fact that evidence IS sometimes falsified. It isn't necessary to persuade everyone to your view. It's only pixie dust that requires mass faith for substantiation; truth stands on its own.

Quote by: another day Basically yes. And no, al-quada is not a conspiracy organization in the sense that it doesn't seek to hide what it is doing (except on an operative level). Their objectives and motives are clearly stated. It's no secret that they are a terrorist organization that aims to kill and bomb american/western targets. In this sense it's not comparable at all to conspiracy theories.

I think you misunderstand what constitutes a conspiratorial organization. Do you mean that Al-Qaeda is not such an organization because its existence is not secret, or because its intentions are not closely guarded? Need I remind you that there is much disagreement over its intentions. The West characterizes Al-Qaeda as seeking the annihilation of western civilization, while Al-Qaeda characterizes itself as seeking self-determination for the Middle East and the expulsion of the West from that region. We market their intentions to sell our own agenda. There are many conspiratorial organizations, in that their machinations are cloaked in deception, while their true intentions remain murky and subject to constant denial.

Quote by: another day yes... simply yelling "conspiricy theorist!!!!11" is a weak argument... But seeking to understand and attack a persons flawed motives for constructing this theory and the shaky foundation it sits on is not.

There are many theories, and, as is popularly said, "they can't all be right." However, conspiracy exists. If you believe that there exist corrupt men of power, and that corrupt men cooperate with other corrupt men, then you cannot doubt that existence...unless you are simply content to believe that the powerful are less highly organized.

Quote by: another day But of course, a simple ad hom attack like yelling conspiracy theorist! is never a valid argument.

We are in argreement.