[Sonart]

.

Quote by: Milton Bradley Fortunately, there are a lot of other places to live out there that have laws similar to the ones you seem to demand.

An interesting sentiment coming from someone who bitches as much as he does about the state of America and how far we've falen from our founding ideals.

Quote by: another day People may think it's a "libertarians wet dream" to overthrow the government with guns, but the situations around the world show a clear need for the people to have power when their government is completely callous about shooting citizens to control the population.

The Phillipines got rid of Marcos without guns, the Czechs and Slovaks had a revolution without guns, the former Soviet states like Poland, Belarus, the Baltic States.

Non-Violent revolutions are far more successful and the wave of the future. Violent revolutions have become incredible bloodbaths, thanks to modern weaponry.

Quote by: another day But without that threat, why would we ban the owning of guns instead of the production of guns? Why wouldn't you just ban the manufacturing of firearms?

Because the same people fighting the banning of guns are also fighting controls on production. It was the NRA that led the successful fight AGAINST communities suing gun manufacturers for selling their guns out the back door to gangs and criminals.

Quote by: Lindsay Number five? They're the 8th one down on that chart..

Oops... my bad, sorry. My dyslexia kicking in again.

Having said that, quiet, peaceful Switzerland is the 8th most murderous out of 37, ahead of every country in Europe except Northern Ireland... I wouldn't be bragging about it.

Quote by: Lindsay Anyways, I don't know why. But we can't find the answers by just comparing murder rates and gun control laws, ignoring all the other factors - cultural, poverty, drug trade, etc, etc.

Or maybe it's just that simple. Violence happens when the means to achieve deadly violence with the tug of a finger becomes easily available.

Quote by: Lindsay No, I don't think you should get rid of your Army, etc. I am suggesting that you keep your constitutional right to protect yourself.

Which has been the point of this thread, Lindsay... for the last 70 years, those tasked by our Constitution as the arbiters of what is and isn't constitutional, the Supreme Court and Federal Circuit Courts have ruled that we do NOT have an individual right to own guns. Doesn't mean we can't, it just means it's a Privilege, not a Right.

Quote by: Lindsay Strict gun control laws in Britain hasn't made their citizens any safer...

If the U.S.A has a gun death rate of 14.24 per 100,000 people, and Britain has a gun death rate of 0.41 per 100,000, how exactly do you figure British citizens aren't safer? London may be crime ridden, but the Brits seem far less inclined to actually shoot people.

.