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Old Mar 20, 2008, 10:12 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
Morgan_Freeman
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Morgan!! Nice to see you dude! Seems like it's been a while.
Thanks. I thought I'd take a break from my philandering.

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And no, the evidence doesn't point in the opposite direction. Every ranking I've ever seem puts the U.S. among the most violent, murderous nations in the civilized world. You saw my chart where the U.S. is the most murderous among the 37 wealthiest nations.
Yes, this is common knowledge. We have a lot of murder here. But what has that got to do with gun ownership? You haven't demonstrated any kind of causal link.

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And which militias are currently necessary for the security of the United States?
Read it again:

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
"A free State". That's what it says. Militias are necessary to maintain a FREE state. This means that the people must be armed and ready to safeguard their freedoms from foreign invasion OR domestic tyranny.

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Nah, based on how often each is operated, guns are several hundred times more deadly than automobiles.
Especially when people are defenseless against them.

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And YET, unlike those more deadly firearms, Americans are REQUIRED BY LAW to register an automobile before they can drive it, must pass a test and be licensed before they can operate an automobile, and must be insured before they can drive their car.
I, for one, would not be opposed to a proficiency test required for carrying a firearm in public.

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Says who? We're the wealthiest, baddest nation on earth, the toughest on crime, with the highest prison per capita prison population in the world, and you say other countries are better policed???
I say so. When your police force spends most of its time collecting revenue from minor traffic violations and and busting peaceful drug users, you know that real police work isn't getting done.

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And less violent to begin with??? Yeah, because they were saturated with the mythology of gun culture, gun violence, the code of the West, John Wayne, Dirty Harry, Rambo. etc. etc.
Dirty Harry? What decade are you living in?

You forgot Tupac, P. Diddy, etc.

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With the nonsense that we should focus our attention on criminals, not guns. With the largest prison population on earth, exactly how focused on criminals are we supposed to get?
Um, seeing as the majority of those prisoners are nonviolent drug users/distributers, it shouldn't be too hard.

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The 2nd Amendment, based on it's original intent is MOOT... it's meaningless... a well-regulated militia is NOT necessary.
Wow. So its no longer necessary for us to safeguard our freedoms? We should just let the government take care of that for us? When did this change come about, I wonder.


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